I can’t make even the simplest of suggestions without it being taken as a personal attack, and im really tired of being told that I shouldn’t care about a RANK game.
I spent some time on an alt account that couldn’t speak because of its fresh status, and I watched the same thing happen. Even when people are struggling and asking for help, if you suggest the wrong thing, it’s taken as a personal attack.
One situation on my alt account I noticed was a healer asking for the tank to group up, and by the end of the game, the tank was gaslighting everyone and trying to get the poor healer mass reported.
What is going on with this game? according to my calculations is is best to stay silent at all times just so you dont run the risk of breaking someones fragile ego.
This game is full of gaslighting and people abusing the report system.
What do i do? can you add another game mode where you’re meant to care or something please help.
Find others to group and play with. A lot of people are turning off chat as even saying GG can get you reported as some find it offensive. More so if it was a stomp not in their favor.
Mine all left. we had this unique oldschool vibe where nobody got offended if someone wanted to play by themselves but would reach out when the mood was right.
When i tried adding some more, they’d jsut spam me for a carry every time i logged in, it got to the point where i didnt want to log in, so i just removed them.
I think the writing is on the wall for me. It’s time to leave.
Unfortunately ow2 is infested with people who consider everything offensive and think that their way is the right way and everyone else who tried to correct them are hellspawns of satan
The best you can do is keep any requests as vague and non-targetted as possible. So “can we please group up?” and not "hey Genji, wait for us (: ". Or “can we get an Ana to help against Hog?” and not “Lifeweaver, please go Ana, thanks”.
Jerks have been rampant for so long that people just assume requests are rhetorical questions or statements made in bad faith. It is what it is. But it is possible to work around as long as you’re careful. I’ve been playing the game on and off since launch and I haven’t been given a warning yet. Hopefully I didn’t just jinx myself.
Definitely +1 to this. Make the suggestion vague and not directly pointing fingers.
Random eg. Had a mercy passive aggressively flame me while i was losing on tank. I had a mercy and LW of course i cant do chit against their ana, not for lack of trying, im handicapped.
But did I point my finger at mercy in rage? Nah. At least not directly. I said, sorry guys im getting wrecked not by their tank but by their ana. They have more aggressive support utilities, a kiri would go a long way.
The toxic mercy swapped to kiri and we won. Not just won, we made it look easy from just that swap alone. I thanked her for swapping.
Now… even that wont work for everyone. Some people just want a punching bag to lash their daily life struggles on. Cant stop that from hapening but you can get dull to it so you dont get mentally affected.
Stoicism doesnt happen over night, and isnt maintained without effort. But can be trained. If your goal is to become that way.
Overwatch is unironically a great tool to train communication skills. How to get your desired outcome in a positive way.
I usually preface all my suggestions with “can we…”
Everyone trickling in alone? “Can we try grouping up?”
A flanker keeps killing me and my supp buddy and no one peels “can we focus this flanker?”
Everyone walking down mid “can we try flanking?”
Tank not taking cover “can we play more around cover?”
People running in low health and thus feeding. “Can we not push on low health, we keep dying”
That way you don’t signal out the problem player, it doesn’t give anyone an excuse to be salty because you tried to backseat their game specifically.
It addresses the issue, but doesn’t feel like you’re forcing anyone to listen to you.
Best of all. You can easily appeal a chat silence later since you didn’t insult anyone, didn’t backseat anyone, were polite. No naming and shaming.
I turn off voice chat and type chat box also, I only spot the enemy and if my team want nothing to do with that spot then so be it, the game has too many lone wolves now, every game has at least 2 players thinking they can take on the entire enemy team, then blame support for not healing them.
I just play QP now, with no communication at all. Game plays a lot better without the toxic chatter.
Point out the problem and let people come up with their own solutions.
If they have a pharmercy that isn’t being countered and it just destroying the lobby. DON’T say ‘we need hitscan’, or ‘Junkrat swap.’ Say ‘pharmercy is their win condition.’
They will either take the hint or not.
If someone seems to be having a bad time emotionally: don’t even speak to them, they are looking for something to argue about.
You can be reported for literally anything. You aren’t getting actioned for just saying GG. I keep seeing people suggest this will happen. It won’t.
Now if you’re adding in EZ after, or something else inflammatory, then yes you may have an issue on your hands.
This game like any other, is whatever you make it, more or less. I play solo often. Just like with mostly any online experience with strangers you will have weirdos. But the majority of people playing aren’t acting like morons and being strange.
Those aren’t really game issues so much as they are internet/social issues
People don’t like being told what to do
So in general I would say don’t tell them to do something….ask….and don’t direct it at a particular person either. “Can someone ——-“ as opposed to “can you ——“
And even then you might not get what you’re looking for (even if you’re in the right) because some people don’t have good team dynamics or have selfish goals
It’s just something you have to deal with unfortunately with online games in general (and this one is no exception)
here what is wrong with this game, thanks for contributing to the problem.
also a hero like Sombra (that you can’t ban in qp), Ana that made my blood pressure raise, and the dam Hammond that if the enemy player is half competent you can’t counter as all his ‘‘counters’’ are just soft counters.
The game is “fine”, it is low elo issue. People in low ranks are low ranks because of their mental set/weak mentality in the first place. Hence, if you don’t want this, you have to learn and play better to get out of this trashcan. But then, you will have one major issue: Q time multiplied by skill gaps because of low players count the higher you go.
No way - there’s still fun to be had if you play with a friend…and I mean like a person who actually treats you like a friend and not someone who looks at you like a key to their pixel game success or lights themselves on fire screaming at the sky if you give them anything but positive feedback.
I play daily and I am not looking for a carry but enjoy just hanging out with some good teamwork. You’re welcome to add me if you ever want to play with someone chill from time to time.
In the very short time I spent playing comp, I’d group with a buddy who would immediately hop into voice at the start of every match and say “hey I might make a suggestion or sound like I’m barking off orders during this match but that doesn’t mean I think you’re bad or that I’m the best… I’m just trying to help us all win”.
The worst outcome I ever saw from that disclaimer of his was someone saying “shut the f up” in text. He just laughed and said “hey if you dont want to hear it, it wont hurt my feelings if I’m muted”. That is why the whole “turn off all chat and never say anything” is too extreme. Turns out, using your words can bridge many gaps of understanding.
I’m not saying there aren’t overly sensitive players out there, I most certainly have my days. But people react that way because they feel they’re being attacked. You’ve no need to justify yourself to them, but you also have to sort of keep in mind that if you dont, then it’s not really surprising that they’ll remain upset and not cooperative.
EDIT: this started a reply to you Potatoed, but I changed that half way through to be a general reply. Sorry if you’re reading this and scratching your head lol
