Ah, I was already missing your threads Ryzik.
Anyway see you tomorow in a new thread.
I hate to be the guy that perpetuates this but itâs because Ana has a much higher skillfloor than any other support. They nerf Ana too hard it will be like post triple tank all over again where sheâs too hard for the value she provides. If Ana becomes harder to play due to nerfs, thereâs no reason to pick her other than for Bio nade. Even then immortality can be a great substitute now to save teammates.
i guess imma just drop this twice, ana is a necessary evil until a new primary support comes out that is both skill based and non oppressive
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Ana is literally to supports what baptiste is to dps. You hate when you shoot someone who doesnât die because IF? Well supports hate not being able to heal because ana dropped goo on their teammates. The only difference is dps are majority so their fun matters more.
âOppressiveâ is a relative term in this instance.
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immortality is oppressive to everyone, and anti can be blocked by shields / matrix / bubbles
plus not needing to heal your team gives you an opportunity to help with getting picks and dealing damage
if all youâre doing on support is healing, youâre playing support wrong
Ana is skill based but she is oppressive as well
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This is probably the most delusional thing Iâve seen someone write on the forums this week and considering some of the topics thatâs an absurd award. Favoring Ana is anything but necessary and the point about oppressiveness is purely subjective which is why itâs irrelevant. All the heroes should be balanced around their realistic potential in high tier with meta effects in mind. Thatâs it.
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this is why you arent a developer though, you arent considering the effects metas have on the ladder.
There are 3 primary healers in the game, moira ana baptiste. Moira is far too easy to ever become meta, it would destroy ladder play permanently. Baptiste could and has weaved his way in and out of the meta repeatedly since season 17, but him having equal power of a defensive ult as one of his cooldowns makes him incredibly oppressive and unfun to play against.
So again, until another support is added or baptiste is reworked, ana is a necessary evil to remain the top primary support
Dva is a major fan favorite, and she isnât dominating the tank pickrate.
Back when she was strong as heck, people would say the same thing, that she had an expressive pickrate because people enjoy playing her. Since they gutted her matrix, itâs interesting that her fans were not that loyal.
While player favorites have some weight regarding pickrate, if someone is consistently in the top across many patches, and have reasonable winrate alongside it, then itâs not a case of favoritism. The character is simply more powerful than the alternatives in the same role.
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Brig wasnât nerfed because of stats its because she had the role of both off support and main support and got the most consistent value
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You should really check my post historyâŚ
I really donât make that many threads in general, it is just when I do they are either about silly ideas or still being sick of Ana because nothing has changed for another month.
I just checked. The last topic I actually made regarding Ana was 13th of July.
Trust me I donât enjoy talking about Ana either, I just want change.
I donât even see Ana as OP, at most slightly overtuned. The problem is every other hero in Anaâs position receives nerfs upon nerfs to force them out of the meta except Ana. This is the case with even objectively balanced heroes. The devs nerf them anyway to address the meta.
This is fine! Perfect balance is impossible anyway and with most heroes the devs balance them in a cyclic manner.
Heavy nerfs are normally followed by big buffs several months later. This literally happens to EVERY hero in the game⌠Except Ana which is causing stagnation in the support category which causes stagnation to the entire game.
Well if Ana is not the most picked support in GM there is something very wrong in support balance.
GMâs donât pick the âfunâ characters. Otherwise they wouldnât have picked Mercy in Moth Meta. They would have picked Ana. GMâs and Masters pick who will be most likely to help them win.
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Only when thereâs no alternative, ana is very strong. but not the best. And I can definitely say GMâs do some dumb stuff itâs not always just whatâs best
She is the Genji of the support class. Only she is not a throwpick.
(People playing her think , âMuh Skillz!â the entire time.).
Not really sure what this means? Elaborate?
Ana is eternalâŚ
and i hate it.
She is the higher mechanically intesive support.
People gravitate towards that for entertainment/challenge/ego.
For instance Genji requires higher APM and gamesense than many DPS heroes. And thus Genji mains think he deserves to be S tier because if this.
The exact same thinking with Ana mains vs the rest of the supports.
And are they wrong.? Shouldnât ana always be a good pick