I just want to win :(

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You know, i just want to win comp games and sometimes i do, but sometimes it really feels that i am meant to lose. It seems like i play continually good but certain games i get different results. I try everything i can to win. I flex when i need to and i overall make good plays for my team. After so many wins am i just meant to lose. After winning three in a row why do i feel forced to lose two in a row after that and be back where i started. Whether its smurfs, throwers or just generally bad teammates it almost feels hopeless to make teams work sometimes. For example i was playing earlier today and i asked a hanzo to switch and he told me to (removed) and then said hes gonna report me because i said he wasnt doing well and we should swap roles. I feel cursed of something lol. Also expecting someine to say git gud or along those lines, but honeslty if i felt it was me i wouldn’t really be ranting like this. Don’t really know what im trying to say but i hope someone knows what i mean. You fight so hard no matter what and get a good streak going and then it goes away and you start getting placed with bad people out of the blue. Hard to enjoy a game you really like when the odds are almost always put against you

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I think you had a slight wall of text problem, so I fixed it for you. Blessings to you sir.

I’m sorry that you’re having rough games.

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Welcome to the competetive where only control you have is your actions. Rest is pure gamble. Best advice? Just play a game. Eventually you will end up in rank you belong. Mute and report any toxic dushnoozels and remember to have fun rank doesn’t matter.

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You’re basically volunteering yourself for the lottery, except the lottery prize is you get to cut off a limb.

My advice is to group up. Make friends and keep them. Find people you synergise with and add them. Even if it’s just one person, that’s one less limb you have to worry about losing.

It’s not your fault, it’s not the game’s fault. It’s totally random who you’re grouped with. It just so happens the numbers on your account are kind of close to the numbers on your teammates account or the enemy’s.

Losing constantly can also have an impact on your gameplay. You start to tilt and your performance takes a hit. Remember to take breaks, especially if the last match you played was full of toxicity. Don’t go into matches with the idea that you’re going to lose or that mindset is going to effect how you play.

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Thanks man it just seems that everyday its the same thing. I put in the same effort but get drastically different results

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Add me i’ll play with you and give you 110% every time we group up. I main Sombra and use to be a Mercy main so I’m kind of flex. I can also play Brig/Moira since they don’t exactly require a high skill ceiling if needed.

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We’re all in the same boat. This whole game is based around a lot of luck and overpowered ults to justify the imbalance in it’s matchmaking. The games are meant to be quick with no wait in between, at the cost of fairness and balance.

The only option as mentioned before is to find people to group with. You’re also drastically at an advantage doing so as the matchmaking doesn’t give you any kind of change for being in a group, so you’ll face the same people you would, except now you’ve got better means of communication, giving YOU the unfair advantage.

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For example im going to be honest. I got placed in high platinum. Around 2900, every day i try to climb with my friend and we win three games and then lose 2 and get back where we started. It doesnt matter how much we seem to win cause it feels like we’re thrown a curveball. I spent all last season trying to get back into diamond but it just felt like the game would stop me even when im at my closest and wouldnt let me win until i was somewhere in the 2800’s again

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I feel this my dude. I find myself constantly putting in the effort and getting better and better over time but I can’t carry these teams and like… I know I’m better than my rank but I can’t seem to climb. :frowning:

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I love this game but it sucks that some days i wish i never played it because of how angry i get. How bad i just want to win when it feels deserving only to lose because my team member picks pharah when the other team has a widow and mcree or my moira decides to dps instead, despite me still giving it my all and providing 100 percent only to lose and feel like nothing will change

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Honestly I believe the only way to climb on a more consistent basis would be to queue with some friends In a six stack. I know the other teams will most likely have a six stack too but at least you’ll know that you have good teammates and will switch if need be. I found that was the best way to control your own destiny in terms of winning. At the end of the day though you can’t win em’ all.

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I feel your pain. I think LFG is one of the best features in Overwatch, so you can vet people and check what roles people main or flex. It prevents some of throwers who refuse to switch and keep feeding.

Queing up with friend with good communication is wonderful. So even if you lose, you can still have fun and give constructive feedback for next game.

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I’d say fun is subjective. There is such a thing as being able to take a loss and still have fun. But losing when it seems like you really should of won on more than one occasion that is not fun. Now dont get me wrong i so have fun most of the time but im slowly losing my will to keep playing and i do love this game, so it does kinda suck to say that

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It could just be unfortunate, but it’s more likely that you’re at your appropriate rank. Everyone wants to win, but you’ve got to accept that you’re going to lose. Unless you think you are t500 level right now, eventually if you rank up you will reach a point where you can’t always win anymore until you improve.

I used to struggle with this feeling too, I’ve been plat since this game’s launch, and it’s easy to feel like you only lose because of throwers or whatever. But think about the games you won: did the opponents always have a thrower? Or did you beat them outright? If you beat them outright, then what are the odds that in the games you lose YOU didn’t get beat outright? It’s easy to only remember the losses that actually had bad people in them and think that that’s what ALL losses are.

You say that you flex, so you’re basically becoming a jack of all trades, but a master of none. If you want to climb, you have to practice something (not necessarily OTP, just pick some characters and focus on them) and become a carry, because if you’re not carrying your games at X rank, what makes you think that you belong in X+1 rank?

Some games are unwinnable, accept that. Sometimes your teammates just die over and over, use terrible ults, are stubborn on terrible comps, etc., or sometimes the enemy is just way too good. But not every loss is like that (I’d wager that most aren’t), so use those to figure out what YOU can do better. Take every death, missed kill, dead teammate, so on as a chance to figure out how YOU could have made that situation better, work on that and just grind it out and eventually you’ll get better and be able to climb.

If you REALLY care, watch videos/guides on overwatch, especially characters you play, and integrate what they teach you into your play bit by bit. But other than that just focus on practice (PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE) and getting better rather than winning, because at some point, if not already, you’ll reach a rank where you only win 50% of the time.

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I dont always flex and i do have carry heroes i.e. doomfist,reaper,rein and a couple others but one good player is never going to beat six good players

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those six good players are in the pool of players that can also be on your team. Odds are that some of your teammates are also good players, you just need to use them right.

You don’t have to beat 6 good players alone, you have to provide enough value such that you AND your other 5 players can beat those good players. Communication makes this exponentially easier. I know that plat and below can be a cluster****, and I know that I do really well when I can see past that cluster****. Whether it’s doing well as my hero (looking for the right picks and confirming them, since I’m mainly a dps main), or supporting my team concisely (taking responsibility and making sure my shield/heals are supporting my team, instead of expecting my team to use my support correctly), then I usually have win streaks. If I can’t do those things, then I know that it’s ME that’s not good enough and that I need to either evaluate my play (positioning, decision making, cooldown/ult management, situational awareness) or work on my mechanics (aim practice, ability tech/timing).

Overwatch is only a full team game if you have your own team and your enemy is a full team. But in below 3-stack queue overwatch is an “optimized coexistence” game that relies mostly on your own ability and how well you can help your teammates. For example, if your winston dives alone, even if it isn’t the best idea, you should go help him because at least then there’s a chance that you guys will provide some crucial value to your team, instead of him dying alone. If you’re not good enough to be a carry, then you have to be an opportunist, looking for any chance that your team gives you (intentionally or not) to provide value.

Until you’re masters/gm, becoming really good at your hero is enough to carry through. Some games have well coordinated opponents that form a wall unbreakable by one person, but most don’t.

Most importantly, though, is that you’ve gotta take this game as a sport rather than a job. Winning should not be your main goal, improving should. Wins and losses should be taken as information on how you can become better and perform better in the future, which will lead to more wins. Changing my perspective like this really helped me enjoy this game A LOT more, because a loss hurts so much less. It’s not a failure, it’s a lesson. It wasn’t entirely my fault, if I had played better we still may have lost, but it was definitely PARTIALLY my fault because if I was better then the game would have gone better. So now I want to get better, and I’ll try to figure out how to be better.

That’s my view on this, at least.

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I totally understand that feeling. Especially when my main and alt accounts are at two different tiers: one in diamond (which I used to be in until I stopped playing for a while) and the other is in low platinum.

Like one I keep climbing and have good win percents on heroes but my other it’s a nonstop win-lose-lose situation and it ends up with the same heroes have less than 40% win rates. :sob:

Good luck though! :heart:

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you know, i don’t want to sit in spawn for the whole match due to the majority of the enemy team always on my back, and i would like fixed camera positioning (not lag, that’s very different for me at least)

p.s. if i’d say targeting, the whole community would smite me, i’ve been lashed out on with full toxicity for a fault i did once, and yes how i fed into their toxicity is embarrassing.

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As someone who played a lot of Blizzard games, try not to think about winning or losing. Think about improving your gameplay instead. There’s always something to work on. Once I stopped caring about wins/losses, I started to win more. Plus, it lowered my stress level, which is a good thing. Maybe it’ll work for you.

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I think one should care enough about wins and losses so that they improve from them, but not so much that they define how much fun the game is.