has the same shield hp as launch briggite
there is definitely a problem here
she was obviously overnerfed, as well as sigma, and this is coming from someone who HATES these heroes
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whut, so I am technically a healer ? 
Launch hp Brig shield was the problem. Highlights even more how wildly ridiculous it and how people defended it was.
I don’t think many people disagree with this. However they can be buffed in other ways besides barrier health. Easy buff is to revert some of the damage nerfs they both received.
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Yes I know, I was just pointing out that orisa is clearly overnerfed
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It’s…not that compariable? Orisa’s shield is on cd, which makes it very hard to balance. Any buff in shield amount or nerf in popular shield break heroes would potentially result in near-infinite shield uptime we have seen before.
Shield on a cd either is paper, or removes the reward of shield break. The middleground is slim.
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Both Sigma and Orisa need buffs, but we don’t have to buff the barriers, at least not yet.
Imagine if all SoloBarrierTanks were viable. Without making DoubleBarrierTanks too powerful.
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That really says more about launch Brig’s power than live Orisa’s weakness.
I agree wholeheartedly with the rest, though.
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or it could be so you have to have 1 main (shield) tank and 1 off tank
idk maybe in some role lock system
They could, but I could see that increasing queue times.
Unless they converted the offtanks into DPS, and then did 1-3-2.
(Maybe limiting teams to one offtank per team)
Actually, she statistically has LESS shield uptime than launch brig, because her shield is bigger.
no no not a role QUEUE a role LOCK its different
How so?
Lock is first come first serve, queue is a queue.
role lock (in this case) is when you take the main tank, you cant choose other main tanks, you can only choose a off tank and vice versa
They could do that, but I feel like that’s just a race to pick offtank
The shield was okay. You could easily destroy it or even bypass it. But the fact that stunned was her problem which let to many nerfs instead of changing the ability. The stun is annoying cuz it’s meant for flankers but it’s used on literally everyone. That’s why it was out of control. But Imo I think 120+ burst damage abilities, one shots one primaries, freeze on a spray primary, a deflect or a literally nuh uh that didn’t happen ability(rewind) are more out of control. Yet here we are people complaining about a healer that can defend herself.
sorry but I dont agree with you on this
the 600 shield was too much brig is balanced now
I was just mentioning the fact that orisa is overnerfed
I thought the problem was they was trying to force an obvious off tank character into the support role by giving her a little bit of healing to justify her place there which obviously back fired so people wanted more healing which really only ended feeding the goats comp anyway.
Inspire should of never existed and repair pack should never been that high it was a stupid attempt at encouraging dps players to the support by again creating a dmg freindly support
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pretty much, but yeah orisas playstyle have changed significantly with this change and it’s hard to make work as a lot of her value now comes from halt, and you really have to make a lot of value out of that for orisa to be valuable in a team nowadays.
does she need a buff? it’s still hard to tell. she’s still ok but in comparison to other tanks she lags a bit behind in terms of ease of use.