I hate to act like I'm doing all i can but

Is it a skill issue or am I just getting screwed by the matchmaker? I don’t feel like I deserved to lose the game I just played. I Was 30-5, my tank was 11-15, and my other DPS was 13-11. The supports were’ doing well. Is it just me? Could I have done something differently, or was it a dud match for me from the get-go?

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No one wins all their games. I wouldn’t stress about who’s fault it is, that just leads to the blame game and that never ends well.

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There is always more you can do, but also if your team sucks doing more is just going to frustrate you when you come up short.

It is matchmaking because have you ever seen an enemy dominate a leaderboard and lose? Nah. It only happens to you because your MMR is higher and pairs you with bots. I ain’t EVER win a match when I am going negative as tank and their tank is going 25 and 1. I lose those, though. :blush:

Unfortunately a bad Tank will equal instant L no matter what. Doesn’t mean it is the Tank player fault especially this matchmaker thinks a Diamond Tank can face a GM Tank.

Scoreboard also doesn’t tell the whole story.

plenty of losses happen because of teammates. its a team game after all.

It doesn’t matter what your score is.

It isn’t deathmatch. You can get all the kills in the world and it doesn’t mean a damned thing if nobody on your team bothers with the objective.

I’ve won games in games like overwatch because people were 100% focused on getting kills. I remember in TF2, I sat on the bomb the whole way, from start to finish, by myself. Nobody from the enemy team attacked me. Nobody tried to stop me. They took the teleports back to the front line.

I remember this happening once way at the start of OW1. I stood on top of the objective and never saw another player until the end.

If Sym’s teleported still worked like the Engineer’s in TF2, I imagine I’d win quite a few matches in this fashion.

never thought of it this way thanks

Don’t worry about wins-losses. This is a bad mindset. Only focus on how well you played or what you could have done to improve.

There are TONS of games you will not win no matter what! even if you went 100-0.

It’s just a stupid statement.
to judge something on the basis of kills too.

How do you know that the supports were good? You can’t observe them 100%.

Also your kills.

You get a kill when you do what? 2 dmg? You can never say exactly why it is, but what you can say is that not a game and also not 10 games make up your rank on which you play, but hundreds. This means that this game causes exactly zero in your rank.

So just go next game

I’m more judging them on there deaths relative to mine and the supports they kept running in trying to 1v5 kills doesn’t mean anything i know that but dying less is good as you are thinking about positioning more and not trying to solo

So the matchmaker actually does try its best to even out matches.

We don’t know the exact values, but we do know that at a certain MMR, players will be forced to carry matches.

Probably due to a lack of players in your own MMR, so it tosses you into a match at a lower elo just to even things out.

Another fault is the friend system in how friends are often at different skill tiers. A lack of groups to face off against means that the MM needs to bring in a ringer for the opposing side to even out the skill levels.

So its really a fault that the devs do try to even out matches and then force players with higher MMR to balance out games that are completely unbalanced.

In turn you will often times get players who are less skilled than you and you having the higher skill level will notice it and blame others more often.

Its not your fault. Its a combination of things that are at fault here.

The biggest part of it to blame is how Blizz refuses to let OW be an organic experience of a game.

its very hard to answer that question without a replay code.

so heres something to keep in mind; when a good player is in a lower rank they are going to have fewer deaths…but a player that belongs in that rank can also have fewer deaths.

their are 2 major playstyles you see from metal rank players.

  1. the IM MVP playstyle, where they try to 1v5 as if they are a smurf (they are not) and it goes about as poorly as youd imagine most games.
  2. the “i was told too play my life so im going to always play safe no matter what” playstyle, where they avoid danger so often they dont actually do anything on their own. they rely to heavily on their team.

the correct answer for climbing ladder is in the middle

you want to play smart so you arnt inting into the team but you also want to try and make plays which does sometimes have risk too it. im not saying you should ego peak a widow or jump in 1v5 on sojourn during your ult but you have to take some risks.

the otherside of this, is that maybe you simply wernt killing the right targets. target priority is a big deal, trying to farm the tank down can be helpful but if you can its best to kill supports (this is why certain dps heroes better then others) or dps (the squishies basically) first since its faster.

and the last side of this, is maybe you just got unlucky. it happens sometimes you get throwers or people practicing heroes they are trash at.

and if you are in QP, thats just the QP matchmaking in a nutshell.

i was in an almost full masters qp lobby and the enemy team had a plat ball player that backfilled after the enemy hog got slept, naded and exploded at the start of the match and then rage quit.

now i wrote this under the assumption you are in the metal ranks since most ppl on these forums are that. if you are diamond or higher it still applies but the higher you are the more likely you already knew that.

Are you focusing on the objective? If your team is trying to take the objective 4v5, and you are in Narnia, you might have actually cost them the game, even if you end up getting kills, because they died before you did get those kills.

Most of my QP matches are usually not crazy imbalanced… but sometimes, just sometimes the matchmaker really puts the fun in dysfunctional and you get a team that is genuinely trying their best but are making just the worst possible decisions.

It seems that in unranked, when the number of players falls in your elo range, you get stuffed into any old game and god help you.

the best thing you can do is to not lose any sleep over it. remember…it’s only a game…this neither resembles, nor has anything to do with real life. at the end of the day, we log on to play a game to try and relax. does it suck at the matchmaker sucks? sure does…but, nothing we can do about it, so, just take some comfort in knowing you did the best you could and leave it at that.