If a nade bounces and you walk into it then that’s on you. Sounds like the Junkrat took advantage of your poor awareness to me.
Ummm… You do realize that hitscans are able to do more over all sustained dps than Junkrat right? There is a reason why hitscans are so much better. Widow’s fully charged body shots alone do more the same amount as a direct grenade hit.
Correct. Skill floor, where people will walk into nades constantly. Junk can spam better then any hitscan when considering the absolute least aim required to get value.
Junk is 2nd overall in damage per match and 3rd on the ladder behind Torb and Bastion. Junk has issues in high level play, but it has nothing to do with his sustained dps output.
It’s not easy to land a direct shot with his primary. But those mines? They rank way up there with Flash in the value for effort scale.
My only issue is that his mines do too much damage. Its a crutch for bad junks and obnoxious to deal with.
You know what is a crutch for bad players and obnoxious to deal with?
Flashbang.
Storm arrows.
Being able to spam a one-shot non-stop.
Idk where you picked that up, but McCree still appears in like every game and Hanzo ends up having more variety since Junkrat excels in specific maps, where, spamming a choke is really more profitable, else if not, the hitscans will way more have ease at firing/spamming themselves.
Sometimes it’s not about the damage values, it’s about how well you can directly throw damage and get something out of it, Junkrat used to be literally bad at confirmnig kills for the most time of this game and it’s fairly recent that he’s gained enough stuff to do both, except on said maps where he already was good.
It’s funny because, at given times, it’s really easier to spam charged shots on Widow in many maps than play Junkrat and I’m really not a prodigy at widow at all, I,d say I,m mediocre at best it’s laughable that I even pick her at times.
What’s disingenuous is making the argument Junkrat is a problem at all in this game while Zarya’s been strong. (I’m referring to most, but not all tiers, on PC). Hitscan crit/burst is completely broken, and every mid-long range hitscan is in a far better position than Junkrat probably ever has been. Hanzo is a far worse ‘spam’ hero in that he can one-shot with his (plus he and McCree both have better shieldbreak).
If anything, Junkrat needs buffs. He’s shut down by so much, probably has the most counters out of any single DPS hero (often by heroes that are actually overtuned in most tiers), and people usually only whine about him because they die to him in situations which are way more often than not you own fault. Most don’t die to Junkrat, so much as donate their life to him by taking the absolute worst positioning, which is understandably infuriating, but you’re misguidedly mad at yourself and taking your frustration out on Junkrat. There are exceptions to this, but they are few and far-between. On top of that, you have time to react between grenades, it’s not a one-shot punishment. Nobody expects to live standing in the near and direct line of fire of a Bastion or being close enough to lick Reaper’s shotguns, why do people expect to survive walking aimlessly through a choke that they can see and hear Junkrat grenades coming through? Because he doesn’t fire in a straight line we don’t respect the space he commands? That thinking needs to go, and fast.
Did you just not read or completely ignore the following?
Comparing one non-headshot Soldier bullet in a choke to one direct-hit grenade from Junkarat is intellectually bereft, especially in response to a post that gave you the max damage values for each clip. On top of that, which Soldiers are ever just shooting one single bullet into a busy choke and hoping/aiming for a body shot?
Please either make well-thought-out valid points, respond to what’s been presented to you, or say nothing at all (preferably via silence instead of through more text).
Echo, Pharah, Widow, Hanzo, Mccree and Ashe are some of Junks counters.
Junk and Genji both situationally soft counter each other with many situations just being a skill matchup. Neither holds an advantage in every situation.
This reads like it’s written by someone who has played for 2 weeks.
Oh and do not forget Soldier. He can be real pain.
There was a time that Genji really was a good counter to Junk, but with all the changes over the years, they have come together.
Yeah the heroes on that list aren’t his only counters. Just his current hardest counters.
If some of you kids can’t make a response/argument with any kindness, like mature and decent forumers can, I’m not even going to take the time to respond to you. I don’t have the energy to deal with children who get all pissy just because someone has a different view on an overwatch character than them and therefore has to insult that person.
So what’s the problem here then? Sounds like you’re blaming Junkrat when it’s literally bad players that let him get away with this.
Lets see you play Junkrat and make it into high masters or low GM and maintain that rank for a season of playing him.
Notice all of those are DPS? Junk is a nightmare for supports in particular
Bap is a very strong pick against Junk and can cover all of Junks strengths. His aoe heals lets him deal with Junks mass damage, lamp counters tire and he should also win duels vs Junk too. Ana is also a strong pick vs Junk although far less so than Bap.
You could also say Junkrat can displace Bap out of his IF, destroy his IF without constantly needing to be in LoS, outburst his self-heal, and peek/play out of Bap’s LoS due to his weapon and kit making it easier for JR while Bap needs to be in LoS of JR to damage him.
Don’t talk about people just “letting” Junkrat do stuff then explain a scenario where Junkrat “lets” Bap destroy him.
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Sure. Baps just more consistent at countering Junk than the other way around.
Ana is NOT GOOD against junk unless you have a competent rein
Bap is good I agree with you there
Finally a junk player who doesn’t say oh hIs pRoJeCtiLE spEeD iS sLoW