I give up, delete hog

I tried to be reasonable about hog, “let’s nerf him but not make him trash, we shouldn’t make any hero unplayable just because we don’t like him”

I changed my mind, kill him, remove him from the game, destroy him. This dude destroys every single tank in this game and he requires SO MUCH RESOURCES from the enemy team for him to die, and at the end of the day he doesn’t die at all and kill everyone. Call it a skill issue, i just can’t bear to deal with hog anymore

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Hog falls apart against sojourn… and ana… and bastion… and orisa…and cassidy… (cass can kill him in 5 shots)… and sigma… and another hog… and the map. The list goes on. He can be countered easily.

Hes somewhat meta, sure, but that doesnt make him op. He requires a good pocket support at all times to be that viable.

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Yeah let’s use one busted hero to argue why another is balanced

Kiriko cleanse says hello

You’re joking… Right?

LMAO

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To be fair Bastion destroys every tank. Once he goes brrrrrr little can stand in his way.

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He has no armor so bastion melts him. Cassidy can kill hog in 5 shots. Orisa completely shuts his kit down.

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Only a bad hog but that can be said about any hero

Hog has way more instakill consistency, self-preservation, damage reduction, self healing, range, CC, ult gain reduction for enemies shooting him, than most heroes in game

His main weakess used to be his punishable ult but they even buffed that, letting him stop and use healing/hook whenever

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Bastion get’s hooked, he is dead
Hog has 50% damage reduction o breather

Mcree is a joke, if there is a sojourn in the game there is no mcree. Orisa is a joke at any level people know how to kill supports first

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tell that to my qp matches

Zarya, Sigma and Orisa tend to fair him around.
Plus a good healer on some dps can mess him up. Take away his healing and prevent his movements. Yeah he just a giant pile of loaf.

You just seem like a player who needs more time to figure it out. Sorry you feel bad. Wait until you meet a good Dva hahaha

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Disagree. Road + heal easily kills all of those because of his insane dmg

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Dunno about Cass, but Bastion and Orisa are pretty good against Hog. Bastion is just… minigun goes brrrrrrrrrr… just don’t be an idiot and try to do it right in front of Hog while his hook is ready because that’s just asking to be hooked and focused down.

As for Orisa, she can bully Hog around pretty hard. She can’t be hooked while fortified, she can push Hog around while blocking his shots with the spin, her gun does good damage to him, and if he goes for a heal you stick him with a spear to cancel it.

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He is no more oppressive than Shin Doom.

But yeah, hog is pretty braindead. All you need is awareness, and you will succeed with hog. Orisa requires careful cooldown management. Sig needs to lead his shots if he wants them to do damage. Zarya has to play peek a boo to reach full charge. The other tanks require either technical skill or multiple levels of awareness.

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If you say bastion counters hog you need to say with a shield as well, cause bastion has giant hitbox and is one shottable

Just pick Echo, she destroys hog. If you’re good enough, you can use iframes on duplicate to bait hook and then 1 shot him with his own character for bonus psychological damage.

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that’s such a stupid argument, i love it. You basicaly said “get gut” but with extra steps. Please tell me when does any of those counter an out of place or as you brainlets call it a “flanking hog” in anything below plat/where THE MOST OF THE PLAYERS are

Orisa is almost a direct counter to hog. Javelin interrupts his heal and her hyper armor prevents hooks.

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TBH, I figure they should just do something like this.

Just enough to knock him out of the top meta spots.

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IFF

  • hes within like 20m
  • if he hasnt hooked him already
  • if he isnt using TaB
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…I mean, just throw an anti at him…? :thinking:

The problem with something like, ‘oh just go Bastion,’ is it pre-supposes nothing on the enemy team is going to pressure the counter, and I know I don’t have to explain how easily the enemy DPS can make a Bastion or Echo’s job impossible if they’re trying to counter a Roadhog.

I don’t think Roadhog is OP, but the current pig-meta is bad because he forces picks on both teams, and nothing in the game, period, should force compositions on both teams to revolve around enabling and countering them. Most tanks are already pushing the envelope in this context, and make the other roles feel like side-characters in the tank’s game and although Roadhog may not be the best tank he takes this dynamic too far.

Playing with, or into Hog can easily start to feel like a game of, ‘keep Hog alive/counter Hog’s counters,’ or conversely, ‘kill the Hog/counter his enablers.’ It’s a trashy gameplay loop. I don’t play DPS to shoot at tanks and I don’t play support to pocket them.

That nonsense was supposed to be in the past with the advent of 5v5.

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