I found some thing startling about account sellers

It’s an org buying and selling accounts
The bigger problem is that it’s well known for years but proper player are second class citizens

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Not sure if you know about the situation on Runescape (if you play that game) There are so many bots and the staff have been trying everything they can for a long time, whenever they do a patch, the bots are back the same day or a few days later, they’re making like 7Bil GP (GP is the currency in that game) a month which often the mules (alt accounts) get away with as they’re struggling to track any of it down.

And Jagex (the company who runs Runescape) has been trying to get rid of them for years, like this is over a decade long fight against them, they ban or patch something out and within a week it’s all back again just as it was.

Venezuelans get banned more than the actual bots for selling their gold… for some reason they are easier to track than someone running like 50 bots in bounty hunter for the trinket thing lol.

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I’m playing Aion Classic right now, and we’re having a really bad bot problem. I mean, Aion always did, but they’re accumulating so much kinah (currency) and pumping out RMT after RMT sale, that the game has only been out for 3 months and we’re seeing volumes of kinah go into max end game gear already… It’s really bad and we’ve just barely begun… This is supposed to be a really grindy korean mmo…

My account was stolen via being hacked & presumably sold. Blizzard gave me my unplayed Lv1 Account back to me yet you can see someone was a little too good playing as Widow using my account.

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/career/pc/AKs0n-1636/

  • SCOPED ACCURACY 57%
  • SCOPED CRITICAL HIT ACCURACY 38%
  • ELIMINATIONS PER LIFE 9.17
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100% some organized cheaters are making use of bots in other blizzard titles too, like world of warcraft retail and classic version.

Since they’ve proven they don’t really care about them.

this happens a lot on Runescape peoples accounts get stolen and then like they find out about it months later and they come back to see they have a high KC for a boss such a Vorkath because it was used to farm something.

I’m assuming a cheater for some reason took ur account and I don’t even know why considering it’s level. Usually they want account already ready for comp, perhaps they got it for free off someone else as it was too low.

I suppose while hacking someone’s account is harder, it’ll also be more profitable to sell since they didn’t have to pay for it…

Either way- there’s no reality where Blizzard isn’t aware of this, and they’re 100% just letting it happen.

what are they supposed to do about it? Buying and selling accounts is against TOS but theres not anything else they can do about it. 90% of these accoutn

They can’t tell if someone moved and picked up the game again. Or if the posting is legitimate; if they made a bot to ban every account for sale on every little backwater site, theres nothing to stop people from posting yours or mine or Seagull or Jeff Kaplans accounts and getting them banned.

For the acquisition of the accounts, they’re either hacked from legitimate players and Blizz can’t tell, or they were bought with stolen credit card info and Blizz can’t tell unless they’re bought en masse.

Blizz’s only real option would be to sue Craigslist and whatever sites these guys use, but there’s no guarantee they’d win. they might get the postings taken down and the users banned, but they’d just make another account or move to another site.

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“Being unaware” is something a newbie in the field can say, but no a veteran.
Blizzard has the data, the personal, the skill to know that stuff like this is happening.

Blizzard 100% could do a lot against botters, hackers and whatnot.

They just choose not to bother, as seen with world of warcraft where private servers are 100 times better moderated than the actual retail versions. All of blizzard games are INFESTED with cheaters of some kind. They even offer these cheaters CHARACTER LEVEL BOOSTS so they can start botting asap without losing time.

Money >>> everything else.

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Lol this is where they screwed up- 30%-31% is what a REALLY good player can get smurfing in bronze.

38% is an absurdly high number, you get this like once every hundred games where you actually play widow for most of the game.

57% acc is w/e

9.17 elims is completely doable.

How else I am going to get up to 3 smurfs per match if it wasn’t for that?

They only play 12 games total but I still find such to be excessively high % rates after 12 games

Either way I got my account back which is all that matters thx to Blizzard.

Blizzard has always acknowledged cheaters and account selling… which is why there are rules and countermeasures in place for both (no they don’t catch 100% of all cases either, this is a constant battle to keep abreast of cheating tech and account sellers tricks). If you think the big company is OK with other people making money off its property, you should look further into it rather than math-ing out some statistics.

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I played the MMO FFXI for maybe 10+ years & such was very common as well in that game. I had my account in that game hacked into maybe once or twice & everybody knew such was constantly taking place.

SquareEnix would just reset your Account back to the date you claimed your account as Stolen so you didn’t lose anything in game as far as items & gave you back your account.

Lol 16 minutes after I made this thread blizzard announces a massive ban wave. GG.

You are totally off the mark if you think Moira is anything but a normal player.

Also, your reaction to their post is so over the top that I’m looking for the punchline but don’t see it.

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Your thought process baffles me.

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what a world you must live in to think you had anything to do with that.

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You can do it in parallel. If you own a few computers with good hardware you could probably easily run like 20+ instances of the game on each, if not way more. Then setup scripts to pretend to play.

Not to say there aren’t any stolen accounts in the mix, but it would certainly be very doable by someone with access to a few computers over the course of 5 years.