won 1 team fight as doom and then the whole enemy team swapped to zarya pharah sombra and ana
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Welcome to my life 
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its just a unfun role, big hitbox all the people who cant aim will also hit you, this is why its never a good role in gaming.
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You then swapped and won another teamfight for your team? Right? You then swapped against them? Right??
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i didnt feel like it
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this is ow2 u can’t play the hero u like to play buddy
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Every time. Every time.
You win the first fight- out comes every appreciable counter.
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The trouble with this thread is that that definitely happens so there’s not much more to say.
So I’ll go on a tangent instead. I haven’t played much post-hotfix so it might no longer be an issue, but which tank is considered best if the enemy does bring out Zarya + Pharah + slippery supports?
- Trying to focus down Zarya is dangerous for obvious reasons.
- Going D.Va and trying to take the fight directly to Pharah is dangerous because not only can it get stuffed by a bubble, that’ll also give enemy Zarya charge at the same time.
- If it’s not one of those maps, then going Sigma and offering protection to the team is kinda rough considering damage is going to be coming in at all angles and Zarya can cut through Grasp.
- Jumping a slippery support on Winston feels like a hiding to nothing because by the time I nobble them, it might be too late. The rest of my team might very well be smoked.
I dunno. It might simply not happen any more because with 225 HP, it might be that much more reasonable for my DPS and supports to shoot Pharah out of the sky. I’m just curious what people consider the optimal tank here.
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devs wanted this type of gameplay, had to embrace it going into 5v5 since countering 1 character is easier than countering 2.
two things.
- Doom is a server admin who rolls lobbies if you don’t counterswap, so people are going to counterswap immediately.
- Welcome to tank. This is why tanks complain about needing to counterswap 5x per game
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its tuff out here no other tanks with mobility like doom other than hammond and i play hammond and die immediately
5v5 Issue.
it was never this bad in ow1
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The role itself and tank heroes are not unfun, what is un fun is the constant counterswaps by beta people who need crutches to win the game
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You won the fight in the first instance because your hero can be very hard to deal with without cc as it’s a hero that revolves entirely about causing cc mayhem. You can switch and play another tank. Doom isn’t the only tank around last time I checked.
the role is unfun in the history of gaming.
there are certainly heroes you would like for me its rein dva hog in tanks, doom and ball definitely have a cult.
but that doesnt change the fact the role is generally unfun, with huge hitbox comes great pain that cant be overcome even after eating another tanks power and more now .
hitbox is a huge issue to overcome.
so far none have , they cant even balance something small as gibraltor and caustic in apex.
its a issue thats not solved.
best course of action for overwatch is to go back to openq and pre r q states were tanks are atleast not as vital and are comparable to other heroes interms of power leads to better games and faster qs.
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the only missing hero was lucio/zen… hahahaha
but that is the issue… OW has become counter-swap.
Welcome to doom/hog/mauga world.
“has become” … you mean since it launched on 2016?
Good widow → WINTON
Good df/ball → sombrero
Good tracer → cass/sombre
Good dva → zarya
Good zarya → pray to your gods.
and so on. You’re acting as if matches were not decided on 2CP maps in the first 30 seconds by being hardcountered on defense.
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sidewaygts made the best suggestion to fix this:
make swapping cost an ultimate.