I forgot how rough Rein/Zarya was to play against

Reinhardt’s weaknesses are covered up greatly by Zarya, and he delievers charge to her extremely well. If anything, I think she should go back to personal barrier and allied barrier instead of just having two barriers to give to Rein. I don’t know if they did that for this trial, but it didn’t feel like it!

Despite how pessimistic the title is, I’m happy to see tank synergize back into the game. Even if it is just for a little while. I think tanks would have been perfected if they were weaker, but could combo together is perfectly as Reinhardt does with Zarya.

The removal of a second tank for the sake of “balance” was a major mistake. The game should never have been more balanced, it should have been more fun. Because, yeah, balance dictates that the one tank has to be the strongest character on the field, but do we like that? I find it okay, but playing with another tank has made me pretty happy. Its a shame there’s always going to be a 1-2-2 format with 5v5.

I think this trial has made me a 6v6 believer again instead of someone who’d take or leave either 5v5 or 6v6.

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it’s definitely overtuned as hell currently but that’s because of all the passives they have too. zarya basically being able to double bubble rein twice is also amplifying how busted they’ve made tanks nowadays

don’t think they did. they nerfed tank hp and called it a day.

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Not the rein/Zarya my buddy and I play (I’m so bad at rein)

I hope they can fix the massive power imbalance between different tank duos. They won’t but they it is what it is I can hope

Have not met a zarya yet, that will kill my Rein.

They best come prepared at my main man.

Zarya in general is just really strong in this mode. Pretty much most of the tanks benefit from having her feed them bubbles. Ram + Zar, Orisa + Zar, JQ + Zar, Winston + Zar… they’re all solid.

Although I myself am having a lot of fun with her, yeah, Zarya probably would go back to the “one bubble for me, one bubble for thee” model if they ever did bring back duo tanking for the main modes. Or at least increase the duration that a target cannot recieve another bubble from the current three seconds or so.

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It’s not fun seeing the same two tanks every match and those being the only two tanks anyone knows how to play because it’s an easy combo

Rein Zarya is a certified W+M1 snoozefest

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That would make her completely useless.

She is just going to be brought out when we have a Rein and she is going to play that Toxic gamestyle of hiding behind Rein shield getting 100 energy and lasering.

We have been through this path. Zarya needs to be fluid and moving around.

I really like the idea of a tank who’s good at supporting other heroes, I just think two bubbles to do it is crazy. HOWEVER a downside to that is she’s a very valuable target who, while powerful in her own right, will get bursted down when she doesn’t have mitigation. So maybe its self balancing in a way?

That’s a really good idea.

No, no no. We don’t need every hero to feel the same and be the same strange buttery smooth monsters like all of the precious mobility heroes in this game. I feel like the standard “I will stand behind this shield and shoot” comp would have had millions of counters already if people weren’t SO scared of shields that they tried to have them all removed.

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The hardest part is Zarya’s bubble gets a 2-second reduction on cooldown when used on an Ally. The upkeep on those bubbles is absolutely insane. You get almost no window of opportunity to land a killing blow.

explain this to me like i am 5 year old.

People on here keep saying things like

For literally every hero. References to mobility and zip zip zooming around. I do not think each and every hero needs to be more “fluid and moving around”. I actually think the opposite is true. We need more heroes that can stand there and hold the line to complement the heroes who are more mobile.

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Yea, we have 1

i am not going to tell you who it is since you do not know.

Most cry about him on the forum. He holds the line and valorant kids mald in the forum.

good logic

we need to move away from static boring game play and more into zooming.

Consider that this is OW2 Zarya with 2 bubbles, and a Rein with a charge cancel and 2 Fire Strikes. They are so, so much stronger than they were in OW1. Not even gonna mention all the passives.

LIke 2 lovers

20 characters

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Yeah they really need to look at reverting some changes they’ve done to heroes if we go back to being able to play 2 (or 3) tanks. Zarya definitely being one of them.

Not in a 2 tank environment, especially when they never fixed the bubble geometry bug which allows bubble to charge on Rein’s shield taking damage holding a shield up simply because the shape of bubble protrudes past the shield.

Shield should cancel bubble

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Shield should not cancel a bubble, but you should have to drop shield if you want to give Zarya charge.

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That’s a perfectly fine gameplay change, which allows Rein to be protected from rear attacks while shielding frontal ones, albeit a more difficult coding approach than the binary if/then on/off approach.

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Only if sojourn does not get rail charge while spamming into shield.

Wait let me get my popcorn for this comeback.