I dont understand OTHER Mercy Mains

It’s not impractical. You don’t grasp how strong Resurrect is. It nullifies the first pick of the fight, that usually results in a lost fight. Mercy can pull off res in the middle of a fight with appropriate support from tanks. D.Va’s Defense Matrix and Zarya’s Projected Barrier guarantee a res on a potential character who has an ultimate.

Ana’s nade results in winning fights sometimes or providing sustain, Mercy’s res results in not losing fights consistently. That’s why so many people don’t think it’s that powerful, it’s power is not able to be immediately noticed.

I am finding it a little interesting that you presented proof of your performance, and how well you’re still playing on Mercy, and people still want to argue with you that she is so much worse now, and that her stats suck.

I prefer hard proof than people’s opinions. It weighs better. I think sometimes people really just aren’t ready to swallow that it may be true Mercy is just harder to play now, and their rank will suffer if they can’t improve with her. You did a great job constructing your post.

Also, here’s your links:
STATS

Season 12

Season 11

IN GAME CHAT


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Being able to undo a single early pick in the game and only when you can be provided cover is only bringing back a single player. How many kills do you usually get when you play a DPS character per fight? When I’m playing someone like Junkrat or Soldier I get 2-4 kills per team fight if things go my way. So how is Mercy bringing back 1 of those kills honestly that useful when each DPS player on your team should be potentially getting several kills?

It’s just not worth it. Just because you think it is doesn’t make it so. Just like Symmetra’s Teleporter it might be useful for extremely organized comps, but for the average player who doesn’t play with the same 6 stack every day isn’t going to have that experience.

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Ok, i’m sick of this.
Mercy was meta for an year and a half before the nerf happened. Res is apparently such a situational ability for coordinated teams, that it defined the meta for six seasons. Mercy had a near 100% pickrate in Grandmaster since her rework launched straight up to the 50hp/s nerf. You think her healing was the reason she was meta? Even at her worst Ana could output far more burst healing than her. Mercy was nerfed for a reason. She was overpowered before the healing nerf, and now she is underpowered because every single last part of her kit was nerfed due to resurrect being ridiculous.

Just tell me: If Mercy’s resurrect is

Why do then Mercy was a must-pick until the healing nerf? Resurrect is so situational! And Mercy’s healing is worse than Ana’s and Moira’s in a burst sense, too. Why on earth was Mercy a broken to hell must pick?

The OP doing great with Mercy doesn’t mean Mercy is fine and viable. There are always some individuals who beat the odds and excel even with the most underpowered heroes. There are Torb and Hog mains in GM. That doesn’t mean the hero overall is OK.

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All of those instances were pre-nerf, where her healing was still viable compared to Moira and Ana. You can’t use stats from OP Mercy days and say that current Mercy is fine because she used to be OP, that’s not how that works.

Even if she used to be OP and chosen all the time, that doesn’t mean she’s going to be chosen all the time now. It also doesn’t change how actually useful Res is as an ability, because they have continued to make changes even as people still value it much the same. Now that her healing has been knocked down to be significantly lower than Moira and Ana, people are going to start realizing she’s just not worth playing or having on your team. You will get more heals out of having an Ana or Moira on your team, and that single res in niche moments isn’t going to be enough to compensate for reliable utility abilities like fade, nade, sleep, etc.

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Her healing was viable, but still inferior. You said that resurrect is “situational” and don’t have power. Why would anyone select Mercy, then? Ana had better burst healing and the so valuable nade.

It was on par with them, not inferior. Moira and Ana might have been able to output larger overall numbers in certain games because of their ability to amp up their healing, but Mercy was still a good option for healing. Now? She’s not even a good option for healing, and that’s basically her only job in the game.

If you want to use old stats to prop up new Mercy and ask why people picked her in the past to say that current, nerfed Mercy is viable, then IDK what to tell you bud. That’s just not really how statistics work out.

People are going to keep playing her for a while, and forever, lots of people are able to make broken characters work, just look at Torbjorn. That doesn’t mean those characters aren’t broken though, or shouldn’t be discussed or addressed. Mercy has some fundamental problems right now that need to be changed - she’s the only primary healer on the team and she does sub-optimal healing compared to the other Healers, that’s a problem.

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This is completely wrong. Private profiles make no difference at all here. When you’re trying to collect statistical information, it’s okay to decrease your sample size to a smaller (but still significant) sample if the criterion you use to decrease the sample is independent of what you’re measuring.

Imagine you were going house by house in a city to check what percentage of people have blue eyes. Now imagine you did the same thing, but only checked houses with even numbered addresses. Do you think the percentages would be different in any significant way? The odds against it are astronomically small.

In order to believe that private profiles have any effect here at all, you have to believe the following facts.

  1. People whose profiles are public are significantly worse at Mercy than people whose profiles are private. Furthermore, they weren’t worse before the recent nerf.

  2. This Mercy issue they’re having is very recent. Nothing about Mercy statistics changed in the slightest when profiles became private.

If you don’t believe these claims (and you shouldn’t, they’re preposterous) then the claim that private profile has any significant bearing at all on Mercy statistics is manifestly false.

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Where can I buy one of these?

This is simply not true. Look at season 9. Same Mercy. Much lower pickrates. Moira and Lucio had much higher pick rates. Mercy had average win rates throughout. Her win rates were the same throughout that season as Moira’s.

The win rates from that period don’t show Mercy outclassing all the other healers at all. The same goes for the first half of season 10. When Mercy was not picked in every match, her win rates were still average.

Ana and Lucio received significant buffs. Moira received a minor buff. They may not have res, but they bring other things to the table. Speed boost, anti heal, insane burst aoe healing, etc.

Statistics show that res hasn’t been good enough to keep Mercy viable. But even if it were, the solution would have been to nerf res. Not her healing.

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Not really, Lucio can’t keep the Winston or Zenyata alive nearly as well as the Mercy can nor can he support Pharah, Widowmaker or Hanzo at all, Lucio is inadvisable outside of a deathball because speed boost doesn’t have a high value target to pocket.

Zen is too good in Dive, and Mercy is too good with Zen.

It is clear that you do not play on the European servers. I played most of my time on the EU servers but tried the NA servers too for some hours. There is a lot less toxicity on the NA servers compared to the EU servers, by a significant margin. On the NA servers there is a higher chance of playing with people who speak English compared to the EU servers. On the EU servers on the other hand there is little constructive or helpful communication, so most of what you hear are insults or threats… and it is very frequent, and often directed towards the healer.

Her healing is significantly more than Ana’s and slightly less than Moira’s, I think you’re seriously disregarding how much accuracy and composition matters for an Ana and a Moira to be able to outheal a Mercy at all and a Moira should legitimately outheal a Mercy because her kit has no other utility than healing. Do yourself a favor and ask your teammates which healer they would prefer and the majority of them will still tell you Mercy because they can rely on you more than anyone else.

Edit: It’s also entirely possible that Nanoboost was overturned and will be nerfed in the future, a lot of people are overlooking how ridiculous the 300 hp flash heal is with damage and armour mitigation.

No, my friend, that’s not how statistics work.What you provide as example here introduces element of randomness into the data set. There’s no correlation between house number and color of eyes - so you can’t claim your data is representative of anything. It’s random, with impossible to calculate error margin. Which invalidates the entire thing.

If you want to do this research right, you’ll develop the method for data gathering, that will ensure the group inspected is actually representative of the city population. While this won’t eliminate error margin completely (nothing short of inspection of every single city resident will), it will reduce it to the level acceptable for the purposes of research (and will make it known in the first place).

And here’s the issue with Overbuff - we don’t have any method to it. Size and dispersion of gaps in its data set is completely unknown to us - which, for all intents and purposes, makes it randomized. And statistics don’t work off random data sets. Plain and simple.

I’ll reiterate myself - can you actually prove that Mercy’s real winrate isn’t 70? You can’t. Because your data is fragmented, and you don’t even know which fragments are missing from it. We don’t know the error margin for it - which might be 4 percent, for example. Again, we don’t know and can’t calculate it. But that error margin, considering that winrates are compared within 2-3 percents of each other, already throws the entire idea out of the window.

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Teammates that will protect her?
Is there anyone left that cares about Healers protection anymore?

The people that actually help the supports deal with danger are super rare.
Harsh truth.
Not only Mercy , but Ana , Zen - No one helps them.

D.va mains got your back yo.

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I appreciate your opinions and the stats you gave but you are only one of thousands of mercy mains. Your stats may be great but that is less than 1% of the whole mercy community who plays, please use stats that were calculated for the whole mercy population rather than just your own.