I dont like widow and hanzos leftclick

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  • they can oneshot everybody besides tanks
  • they can oneshot without the need to use cooldown abilities (standalone or in a specific combo)
  • the way you play the game changes far too much if you are not playing dedicated counter heroes

and most important:

  • its simply not fun to die from 1 single click to the head without the chance to react to it

I’m fine with ability oneshots (reinhardt charge or roadhogs hookcombo for example), you get some time to react to those or your teammate gets some time to use a counterability (zarya bubble for example).

heck, im not even mad if a doomfist punches me into a wall, because now he is in a vulnerable spot and needs to blow his other cooldowns to get out of the middle of my team.

but those snipers? oh boi…

those 2 are the mainreason why i dont enjoy this game right now.

If good players use them and are having the time of their life killing everybody that dares to peak around the corner or from behind the shield, good, by all means have fun doing that. Because i sure as heck am having no fun at all dying to snipers over and over and over again…

It just feels so utterly bad to die from a widow or hanzo headshot out of nowhere.

  • you cant react because you are instant dead
  • if you are not playing a counter hero you cant do much

funny thing is, even the counter heroes are having a hard time actually doing their job right now…
they just leap/grapple out of harms way if they get dived. (why do snipers have mobility in the first place? doesnt make sense… they should be sitting ducks when they get jumped you know, like some supports or other dps)
i mean there is a reason why good winston players always turn around midjump when they dive a widow or hanzo…they would get melted if they would not do that and the enemy is a decent sniper.

In short:
I’m fed up with ranged One shot potential tied to a leftclick in this game.
IMO, It’s just not fun playing against this in a game like overwatch.
I would love to enjoy this game like i did in the past but right now…im fed up with this.

greetings, im out
sleep

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;-0 i feel ya my dude, i feel ya.

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Widow’s left click doesnt one shot? It has crazy spread and is mostly used to stall at close range until you can get away with your grapple

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i think he means zoomed in left click

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Shhhh dont ruin my fun

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When playing widow, holding rightclick makes a scope pop out of her gun! Try it if you don’t believe me.

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But thats not a left click

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You can’t drag me down this road.

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Is that a challenge?

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In my last 5 games had 2 Hanzos
I died to Hanzo’s headshots 2 times only.

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I usually die to Hanzo blind spam. Please teach me. (No sarcasm, seriously.)

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who do you play?? All my matches have 2-3 snipers, now this is just qp it’s not as bad in competitive

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Did you die to each Hanzo once or one Hanzo twice? :thinking:

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How many snipers have you actually come across that are that good though? Yeah headshotting players that walk in a straight line is easy but shields make them useless anyway, especially Widow.

I don’t think they should have no mobility. Being a sniper you need to get on high ground and without any movement that’s kinda hard.

I do agree that the whole getting oneshot thing is not fun. Just as it’s not fun getting bullied by a Tracer or a Genji. So if a sniper does manage to deal off flanks then they are good and deserve it.

Though it is annoying to have to put effort to kill that Widow from across the map that’s killing everyone from a safe position.

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who do you play?? All my matches have 2-3 snipers, now this is just qp it’s not as bad in competitive

I main Hanzo. QP is harsher actually, for me at least.

Did you die to each Hanzo once or one Hanzo twice? :thinking:

I meant 2 only headshots, but died maybe 6 times?. Still, only one was the random shot. Enemy Hanzo died on battlefield and was rushing back. Meanwhile I killed I think two people on the point, leaped towards another enemy to kill but ate arrow mid-air haha.
That was the random Hanzo arrow from the 2nd entrance on Paris.

Its very simple, actually. You just have to realize and fully understand that, if you stand in a place where Widow/Hanzo/Ashe/Mccree can reach your head, soon or later it will happen. If you dont control their positions, chances they you will ate something nasty greatly increases - for that reason, and because I try to kill them first (Cause Im a Hanzo and thats my job), using mic I ask teammates for their positions if I dont know it already.

Common rules:
1.If you advance when Hanzo is somewhere in front of you, without shield, stun or any means that will kill him, without knowing his exact position and view, its simply extremely bad idea. Not only Hanzo, same applies for Widow or Ashe. Chances that you will eat arrow/bullets are extremely high. In that case I just flank from side, or wait for tanks

2.If Hanzo shots his sonic arrow, your chances to catch arrow with your head are extremely high - he can see you after all. Without shield, stun or any means that will kill him, I either bait them - most Hanzos will try to take your head, since they can see you. Or, in most cases, I simply retreat or wait for tanks.

  1. Hanzo is close combat hero, he is extremely unreliable on distance unless you stand still or move in one direction, which you should never do anyway. In situations where we see each other but have no guarantees to kill (The lucky shot decides who will die), I simply dont test my luck and move somewhere closer, or retreat, then I wait for better opportunity to hunt him down.

How many snipers have you actually come across that are that good though?

Starting some point in Masters, DPS players no longer have bad aim. I dont care about Hanzo’s and probably no one does as he is generally a crap hero, but Widows and Ashes are real pain in the bottom part of the body.

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Sure it does. if you are on one health.

I’ve been one shot by her left click… after a bunch of other shots from it. But it was the last one shot which killed me :slight_smile:

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Ditto, teach me as well.

I move position, and boom, a headshot aimed at someone else ends me.

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Ditto, teach me as well.
I move position, and boom, a headshot aimed at someone else ends me.

Well, above? Also, on the YT, I have couple videos I wanted to show me friends. If you search for hanzo and some people who never learn, may be you will see what happens when you break to common rules above lol

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I have the most trouble with him when I am running Mercy, because you have to reposition across his LOS often. I try to GA across always, but, dumb luck means sometimes it doesn’t help.

I don’t have problems with him as Zen, because I am normally pretty far back.

But yeah, being more aware of where he is, is a thing I need to work on.

Strangely enough, I CAN keep track of Widows all the time, but Hanzo? I am not so good there.

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Widow’s ‘left click’ is her gun going into sniper mode. You saying you have an issue with it just means you don’t want a sniper in the game. It takes skill usually to oneshot as Widow.

Hanzo’s ‘left click’ is literally just him doing distance gauging, which is vital to a person using archery. And yes it can add power to it too but mostly it’s so that he can have his arrow go farther.

What you have an issue with is snipers, and both take some amount of skill to get a one-shot-head-shot (assuming you were talking about being at full health). Changing any of this would mean you don’t want snipers in an FPS game which is pretty lol.

They can be shift and sneaky but I mean just keep an eye out for them? Like it’s not that hard and people complaining about snipers in this game need to stop.