I dont get the DF nerfs

Isn’t DF like a high skill ceiling hero? I feel like nerfing him only punished skilled play(Something the community has been aching about for a while) In my experience anytime there was a DF he is often feeding, Popping off but then we switch to counter and then he is feeding again or is a absolute monster(which is extremely rare)
Like why are we nerfing him? Because he one shots? I feel like the same people asking for his nerfs were the same asking for Widow nerfs a while ago. Must be a GM and above thing.

Edit: TLDR Why do people not like getting One Shotted by DF but dont have anything to say about Widow?

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he’s one punch wasn’t the problem (yeah it was annoying)

the problem was the fact that he can come in and kill a 200hp hero (using the uppercut combo) and get out without any risk

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But doesn’t that take like alot of skill? Using that logic both Widow and Hanzo are OP as they can (In the hands of a skilled user) OHKO all non tank player bar I think Brig, without any risk.

Like I said in most of my comp matches it is a DF just feeding with a few lucky kills every now and then. I talked to a top 500 on my platform who said he was an issue but that is such a small minority does it really matter?

Edit: I dont play DF and have no intention of playing him. I play Pharah so my interactions with him other than just killing him are quite limited

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uppercutting someone and filling them with bullets takes skill? No no no

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But that is the thing. I like never see that. He dives in then maybe gets a kill then dies. May I ask your rank?

Not really no

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its at all ranks

im 3400 and see this a lot

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I see. Maybe because I’m console then? I straddle between 3100 and 3200 and rarely come across a good DF. More Widows than anything tbh. I always assumed he took a good bit of skill. I saw a “roll out guide” that was like 30 minutes long and it all seemed so complicated.

yes and no. Like it isn’t skill-less to do the slam combo, but once someone isn’t able to to control themselves properly or move to evade it really doesn’t take skill to hit a hero that is left in the same path of decent with you. Yes you are both moving, but since you are both moving at the same speed at the same angle you may as well not be moving.

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This is the response youll tend to get by people who hate doomfist.

The answer is actually yes.

Doomfist does well in upper tiers when circumstances allow.

Doomfist in mid tiers where most players exist? He enjoys about a 50~ % win rate.

In low tiers doomfist is well below 50.

Doomfist is amazingly rare in pro play despite his alleged OP status.

Doomfist has one of the highest death rates of any hero in the game.

Yes- hes very difficult to use in a manner that doesnt just result in straight up feeding- and has all the signs that he is.

But hes a burst damage hero so when he does it right and gets a surprise kill it feels like they had nothing they could do about it omg no skill plz nurf

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Rofl… just… stop… loloolololol… high skill and doomfist in same sentence… lmao…

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There’s a risk.

But even if he got killed , trading one DPS for one enemy’s healer is the big profit for the current state of this game.

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Ah hes not?

Hey do me a favor- add me on bnet.

Well get some buddies and set up some customs

You can take doomfist and show me first hand how little skill he takes

As always- this is a genuine offer.

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Totally not a biased opinion lol

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And you think yours isnt? Give me a break.

Its mot “my opinion” that the hero does poorly in low skill environments- and only starts to do good in higher skill environments.

Maybe youd like to explain why that is?

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Doomfist is getting nerfed because he doesn’t have sufficient counter play.

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Your “high skill environment” starts where the majority of the player base sits

ive offered ot hefore.

Ill offer it again

Add me on bnet. Lets get some buddies. And do some customs.

You can take doomfist.

You can show me how littlecounter play he has first hand.

Or dont. And continue to be hot air. Up to you.

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Why does he have the highest win rate out of any dps in silver then (‘_’)/ ?

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What are you talking about, he’s picked a lot, especially when it comes to countering goat when teams are not running mirror comps.
I’m not saying Doomfist is Brigitte level skill demanding but you can’t deny his kit is extremely forgiving, that is what makes him frustrating : "you managed to avoid being RP’d ? Well you have 4 seconds before he gets another shot at it, Oh and he can send you in the air and combo you so RP is not actually necessary to kill you, and BTW have I mentionned the shield he’s building ? Yeah too bad you were so close to killing him but he flied across the map to go back to safety. Oh and BTW, he’s invulnerable while ulting don’t be surprised. "The amount of effort required to kill doomfist is way higher than the amount of effort he’s gotta put in to kill you.

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