I play a lot of support and the only thing I get is frustration or anxiety. Frustration for when I do good but then my team auto feeds and their nothing I can do to save them. Anxiety from having to play so out of my mind to actually make that difference. If I try and use cover I just die to the flankers while my tank and DPS scream I need healing. If I try and play closer to my team it seams that the tanks have come to an agreement to bypasses each other and just kill the supports. I do not see anything I can do to get out of this meta. I am done with this game until I see a patch that addresses this.
I am so tired.
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Yeah I almost never played dps in ow1, but ow2 has started pushing me more into. Support is just frustrating with how much you have to cover for others mistakes, do your job, try to carry and deal with the flankers constantly riding you all simultaneously.
Playing dps is basically what Iāve been doing to take a mental break because things are so much more straightforward and I can actually deal with the problematic opponents
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Right now Iām playing Support even in Combined and I even Solo healed for 36k as Moira in one game, but sheās the only hero I can actually enjoy atm because sheās so hybrid and self-sufficient I would not even Kiriko honestly as long I can make this pick.
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Iām worn down as Support too - especially because thereās only three (three and a half if you count Baptiste, who Iām not that great at) supports I actually like playing. And Iām genuinely sick of playing Moira all the time.
If I play Lucio, itās not enough healing and my team is too scattered. If I play Zen, Iām basically fodder for flankers (especially Genji. god Iām so sick of weebs.) and thus a liability.
Worse, Iām feeling the trickledown effects on tank. If my DPS arenāt pulling their weight or the supports canāt stay alive (or worse, either group is incompetent by being newbies or consoles or both), playing tank just turns you into a slightly longer-lived punching bag. I have better survival but I canāt survive a 5v1 no matter how much I wish I could. And the 5v5 format means that if -I- have to turn around, and peel, and babysit the Supports - something I was fine with doing in 6v6 - then my team doesnāt have the tanking they need in the frontline. If Iām trying to deal with a Widow or pestering the Genji trying to ride my Ana like something out of a bad fanfiction, no one is dealing with the Rein and his team running straight through us.
This whole format really has shown Blizzās spectacular balancing incompetence.
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You donāt have to give up playing OW2 though, pick up DPS or Tank, they are WAY more fun than support is right now.
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Yes, time is passing, the bottleneck is getting worse and worse in the tank and dps roles, and what do the devs do? absolutely nothing to fix it.
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Problems with support role:
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You are dependent on getting good teammates if youāre solo-q, least impactful role by far.
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You have to not play an FPS and instead play āletās keep all the health bars topped upā
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Other roles cannot perform well unless youāre constantly there pumping healing into them, thereās no downtime on that to do some damage.
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Role has most responsibility and least satisfaction. You get flamed for not healing if youāre losing, regardless of if itās your fault or not. Sometimes you keep pumping healing in and get zero reward because the people you are keeping alive canāt hit a single shot. When you win it only feels like you enabled others to win, the victory doesnāt feel that satisfying.
Would recommend you watching the new Stylosa video about the āsupport problemā in OW2.
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Support in a nutshell right now: Carry the team simulation 101
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Say what you will about support, I just donāt find it as enjoyable as it used to be. Iāve been having way more fun on the other roles despite almost exclusively queuing support for past year or so.
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Its something normal : healing a useless team wonāt make the payload move
If your tank doesnāt go infront/dps doesnāt kill nor put pressure, youāll never gain space, youāll never win.
Now thatās 5v5 and not 6v6 with an off-tank, takedowns are way more impactful, especially when a healer/tank is down.
If you wanna play healer in comp, I suggest you to duo Q with either a dps or a tank. You really donāt want to solo q as healer, its literally lottery.
I personally prefer 5v5s, it makes the game faster paced and more dynamic. As a dps main, I have to say Iām having a lot of fun : less barriers and your decisions are more impactful and you feel more rewarded when doing good /punished when doing wrong.
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Honestly, I donāt play supports much, but when I do - I relax. Because I have a clear job (to heal, to survive and to damage when I can) and usually if I canāt do it - itās out of my reach. And if I do my job well but we lose - Itās just teammates not performing or enemy team just being plain better. I feel less responsible for the outcome as long as my heals and ults are ok.
Whenever I play DPS, I donāt count as much on healing, because itās partly MY responsibility to access healers and make sure they CAN heal me. But when I play as support itās vice versa and itās just so relaxing)
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The sad thing is there probably will not be a patch that addresses the support problem, because apparently our main job is to be fodder for the DPS.
Another thing I hate is how Moira, is literally the only support whose ultimate can directly do damage to the enemy, everyone elseās is either a healing/shield-ult (lucio, zen, brig) or a buff-type of ult (ana,kiriko,baptiste). And then there is mercy, she just flies. And people wonder why Moira is the most played support now. Like if u play anything other than moira, u just press ult and hope that someone can kill the enemy.
So far, i have met so many DPS players, they were losing a 1v1 to me, and they just gave up and pressed Q, and i just die. Reapers are the biggest contenders so far. Literally cant aim at me and just press Q to solo-ult me. How petty.
I just want more supports that have a damage-type ultimate, something that can actually hit the dps. Which is why ive started paladins some time ago (although im aware of its bugs and balance issues), at least the supports there feel satisfying to play. Not to mention, their ultimates there can actually do direct damage to enemies rather than just buff allies. And, the biggest thing for me, most of their healing isnāt tied to LMB/RMB, so i can actually fight while healing.
But whatever, according to DPS mains, all we have to do is āadaptā and āgit gudā because we have āskill issuesā. Yet, when they ult and nothing dies, its apparently the supportsā fault.
gg blizzard
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I think there will be, but not during the OWL season. I think they will be nasty and brutal, and repeated.
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I quit playing support yesterday, Itās the least impactful role. it doesnāt feel rewarding to be a heal bot.
Apart from very high ranks Kiriko is a bad pick, not fun enough to play.
I am just going to play DPS and tank and not really care what my support do or think.
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The fact that they are looking at winrates to balance certain heroes, is already a very big red flag. They said they were going to communicate to us more, so why the F are they looking at winrates? Why are they not talking to the PLAYERS? Why are the only looking at numbers?
They did not talk much about sojourn, who is a very very broken dps as of now. She is played almost every single match at high ranks (from what ive heard and seen), and apparently shes āfineā. And they mentioned they are looking at torb and sym? Really? I quote their exact words.
āSymmetra and Torbjorn are two other damage heroes that we are keeping a close eye on now. Over the course of the first week, their win rates have been gradually increasing, and they are showing the highest win rates now at some ranks. Both heroes can be effective counters to Genji and may be enjoying their success due to his popularity. When we look at potentially making changes to them we need to keep in mind the landscape of the rest of the hero roster. For example if Genji is tweaked and possibly played less these heroes might see less success and not need adjustments themselves.ā
So what u are saying is, symmetra, being the literal worse hero in the game for years, is doing fine just because she counters genji? And has a decent winrate?
Ive lost all hope for any salvation for support players. Im just gonna stick around for the PvE, assuming it even survives to release it.
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They are going to freak out over support players not queuing. Because their business model NEEDS them to queue.
They are going to communicate in around 8 hours, they are making a video about balancing. So, we will see what is going on in their head soon enough.
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I canāt wait to hear what the finally have to say.
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Well, im not watching it, im not gonna risk my sanity any longer.
I wish all the surviving support players all the best tho, hopefully something amazing happens to yall.
Ima see yall in pve
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You were playing support, donāt pretend you had sanity to begin with.
Anyway, Iāll watch it and do a write up.
Honestly, I am thinking the same thing.
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I know it is a fresh game, but in my opinion it is not going to change. In 5v5, tanks are too strong therefore squishies will be the prime targets. And with single tank, there are so many flanking opportunities, backline heroes, though powerful, do not feel good.
Best to play dps where you can at least kill some stuff, or tanks who live so long and are the true carry imo. If want to stay in support, Lucio and Brig feel less frustrating - but I am getting subjective here.
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