I’m Fascinated To Know…

Which hero, in anyone and everyone’s opinion, is the cheesiest? I feel like any hero that have the turret/heat seeking/invisibility abilities are pretty cheese to me. (i.e. Sym, Torb, Juno, Som, Moria) but more recently I’m seeing 76 with a pocket might be the hardest hero to counter especially as a DPS main and quite possibly as a Support main. I remember when 76 only had 25 BPR, those were the days but now he’s near impossible to counter with 30 BPR. Thoughts or opinions on how to counter?? Thanks.

Just leaving my 2 cents here. Calling something cheese is weak. Its in the game for a reason.

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So you must main one of those 5 hero’s I mentioned as a main? It’s cool, you’re not good. Coulda just said that.

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No because theyre garbage tier heroes and I like to win. Coincidentally thats the same reason I am good at dealing with them instead of calling them dairy products.

Moira. The buff to her self-heal made dueling with her pretty cheesy. I still play her when I want to cheese, but yeah…

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The hero with a 93% banrate is probably the best place to start and end the discussion. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Moira, so much value from a character that requires very little mechanical skill.

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Yeah, just like Brig was in the game for a reason.

Oh wait that doesn’t matter because Brig’s mere existence set the game down an irreversible course of self-destruction

Like I said. Pretty weak

Nah, just objective fact

By the way, is it you or Ranulf that go on about godscans all the time? You got the same pfps

Please take your 2 cents back with you. And here, you dropped this too :clown_face:.

Anyways, just leaving my 69 cents here. The cheesiest heroes are Moria and Sombra. Inflated stats the character, the eternal noob stomper, Moria first of her name just plays herself, and keeps players from ever improving. Shes a fake, free value character for the less mechanically inclined, period. And every time I get killed by one of them, it always feels worse than anything else in the game. Cheap. Thats bc it all amounts to them just holding down a button, and them getting free value as long as im within 15 feet of their reticle. It doesnt happen often, but it does happen, and it sucks every time. At least most everybody else has to aim…

Sombra? Sombra.

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Depends the matchup, sym torb aren’t cheesw if you run pharmercy, they are throwing.

I do consider GOATS in open q as cheese as you make it necessarly hard and avoid the easy to punish dps role that can’t fallback to heal.

Moira, reaper evtl mei would go on my list depending rank, if its dia and higher then its not cheese but below its basically abusing peoples inability to click heads.

One could argue widow in t500 due to insane peel and hero power could ve considered cheese But I don’t know how hard that is to do.

I mean Pirate Ship is kinda cheese that relis on teamwork instead of skill.

I know I name mostly comps…

We could include cassidy due do his high hp pool and add torb to the list.

(plat opinion btw)

Honrable mention goes to pharmercy

moira hands down, easiest hero to get value from.

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For me its dying to dots like ashe dynamite, sombra virus, soj disruptor, or moira meatball.

Buts nothing to do with how strong or weak they are, but more so my tf2 generational trauma of killing a pyro and dying to after burn.

It’s definitely ranulf that complains about hitscan a lot. Tho after you mentioned them, I haven’t seen them around in a while.

The biggest cheese is a Mei sitting in the corner waiting for the enemy tank to go through a choke

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If we define “cheese” based on what percentage of a hero’s gameplay is gimmick, then Widowmaker, Roadhog and Doomfist are almost pure gimmick.

If we define “cheese” based on how tacky I think it is to play them… Freja. Let’s be honest, you picked her because she’s OP. Although I will give honorable mention to people who rageswap Zarya at first sniff of a D.Va.

Are you sure? you seem like you need it and no thats not mine. I dont carry a picture of your mother, would be weird

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i would say moira but that necessarily doesnt mean its easy to play her

dont know why but everytime im NOT moira and i get a teammate moira they either die more than 10 times, are a healbot (weird) or do some strange things lol

as thicbuddha says the hero with 93 percent banrate was not that hard of a hero to play…

STILL “personally” i have never even had problems going against enemy sombras, dont know what the fuss was about. i mean sure there were some that spawn camped me as ashe, widowmaker or a support but was kinda my fault for not doing something about it. also yea your team usually leaves you on an island.

also as widowmaker i hate sombra but thats how it should be since a MAJOR counter

everytime i seen sombra when im not sombra i never cared… of course UNLESS i was widow

I would say a lot of the builds in Stadium are pure cheese.

Though in the other modes the buffed version of Hazard’s spike guard felt cheesy and of course season 8 Mauga was the king of cheese.

Pirate ship and Tempo Rez were cheesy, but the grand prize goes to two Maugas going AAAAAAAAH
BRRRRRRRRNNNNNRRRRRR

at each other for an entire match.

That made double shield look engaging