Your “point” was that it’s possible to outplay a good Widow for high ranks. Which is objectively false. You mirror or you lose. Sombra is not picked on sniper maps. Widow is.
I would take away her 1 shot when she is just standing there, and instead make it where she can only 1 shot while in the air after a grapple.
No more passive, sitting in the back of the map widow, and instead make it where she has to actively do something for her 1 shot value.
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Decreasing grapple cooldown but making only grapple shots do 300 damage is actually a really good idea tbh. I’d enjoy it a lot more at least
My point was there’s 2 options : bad team and good team (usually high elo indeed).
Bad team will be too stupid to adapt and as such Widow will dominate, so the answer for OP is just to go Sombra (since it works extremely well in most ranks, especially lower ones).
Good team will know how to adapt, both individually (taking cover, not peaking, not running in open field etc etc) and as a team (I.e go dive or at least run a shield, not go 1 by 1, coordination team combo etc etc).
Now to resume to your point, i don’t see where it contradicts mine since mirroring Widow is technically the best option considering the ressources your team invests is basically one member only, as long as he can do the job. Mirroring Widow IS part of outplaying her just as the rest i mentioned.
Widow, a sniper, being picked on sniper maps doesn’t sound that crazy to me for some reason. Maybe some kind of link.
Although I understand that getting randomly one shot can be frustrating, I don’t think she needs a nerf/rework.
She has a low health pool and is easily counterable.
There’s no adapting. You mirror or you lose, simple as that. It’s not the best option, it’s the only one. And no, the only counterplay to something being a mirror is not ok.
Because you’re being disingenuous. It is absolutely a problem if you HAVE to play a hero to have a chance at winning. On any map.
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First mirroring is adapting, second of course it’s not okay for the only counterplay to something being a mirror, i totally agree with you on that. Good news is, all the things i mentioned are counterplay, so you’re not stuck with only one option.
I’m actually purely logical on this one. If a certain terrain is obviously promoting a certain playstyle, anyone who wishes to put all the chances on his side will adopt that playstyle. Do you see many Widows on Anubis ? Is Widow picked in overtime to rejoin a fight ? Obviously not, because it’s both inefficient and other heroes offer better options for those situations.
Also the game doesn’t force you to play a hero, the fact that you want to win (which is expected of people in high elo) forces you to play it.
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best nerf they could do is rework the maps to not have such extreme sightlines
they’re never going to get rid of her one shot cos muh identity or whatever, but they are working on honing in some of those 70m long payload sightlines and any widow nerf is a welcome one
Remove falloff but drop headshot damage to 2× upped to 2.5x only during ult. Be able to walk the spider mine around.
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It’s not adapting to choose the only option available.
But they’re not, which is why none of them are done. The only option is a mirror, which is not ok.
No, you’re not. You’ve been disingenuous at times, outright lying at others.
Promoting is not the same as forcing. Dive is promoted on Flashpoint. It isn’t the only option.
Not only is this disingenuous, it’s also stupid. “You have to play this to have a chance of winning, but it’s not forced at all”
This is why no one respects Widow players. There’s no legitimate way to actually defend your hero so you have to break out the mental gymnastics. Actually, this goes beyond gymnastics. This is mental contortionism.
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Are we surpised that a widow main is fine with widow mirrors being her only counterplay? No, we are not.
The mental gymnastics required to think she’s not OP as hell is pretty astounding tho. Like… are you reading your counter arguments? Cuz they read more like apathy/blatant ignorance than actual reasons.
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Thats actually a reasonable change. I just do not know about the mine. Id rather have two charges.
Well it seems we’re facing a dead end there. Even though i know how annoying and disgusting (fun wise i mean) being forced to play a certain way to win can be, since you deny obvious facts we won’t go very far anyway. Let’s then agree to disagree, have a great day.
I would get all of her files and press the ‘DEL’ button to, um, deliver some nerfs to her 
Fraudkuna at least provided some things to discuss, sadly it seems your deep hatred of Widow (i’d guess coming from too much times getting outplayed, probably in the same way again and again) confines you to live in denial.
Anyway, have a great day too, don’t forget to use protection when going in the open field !
Maybe remove the grapple and make her more risky to play , or increase the time for the shot to be 100% so she doesn’t one shot you instantly idk
When widow thought she is at the bottom, from the bottom she heard knock-knock.
I’d rather face a pro Widow than an okay Sombra any day.
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Completely rework her. Change her identity away from ‘the sniper’. Overwatch does not need a sniper.
The lazer seems like a rlly creative idea