Honestly I think that wido is a very scary character to play against because she can literally control the whole payload without moving positions and without losing any health honestly I think it would be a fun concept if they made widos bullets make her take damage and take away her heal passive so she has to go get healed and also taking resources away from the team instead of buffing her counters making it hell for everyone else
Tell be what you think
I one trick Reinhardt in competitive, so Wide-O is not particularly scary as I have a dinosaur sized shield. Even if I queue all roles in quickplay, I can usually just go Ball, Lucio or Sombra and force her off if needed. There is not much she can do about it without a double pocket and if your team cannot win while you pressure a double pocketed Wide-0, you would have lost even if she decided to spend the entire game jumping off the map instead.
Widows impact is directly correlated to the enemy teams brain power/IQ. Since most of OW players either lack the first or make sure the second never reaches two digits, Widows nerf comes down to clicking on Sombra.
Of course if your team is part of the 0.9% with game senses, we can talk about positioning, covers, team comp and movements etc etc, things that turn a Widow into a throw pick pretty quickly.
I hate being killed by Widowmaker. I hate when my team can’t figure out how to deal with Widowmaker. I can’t play Widowmaker at high level so I don’t have skin in the game. Even given all that, I don’t think the hero needs nerfed. I love the variety of heroes that OW has and the sniper is one of those and adds nuance to the game play.
She’s unable to be nerfed without destroying her currently, so a rework would be the only way to adjust her, and no one trusts reworks.
I would select Sombra at hero select. Widow deleted, problem solved.
Maybe not so cut and dried at high rank, but at mid rank the purple people deleter goes away completely the moment a Sombra puts their mind to it.
One possible nerf that would allow her to keep her sniper character archetype, make full charged shots take longer to charge
Currently she can either kill anyone in under 1 second or lower their hp enough to force a retreat… all of this from across the map, there’s no reason why she’s able to do this so quickly
They could also change her like the sniper bot, you’d be able to see the laser while she’s scoped or they could add travel time to her ads, this way widow players would need to predict where the enemy is going to move as opposed to being 100% hitscan
Give her a laser sight so it’s more obvious if she’s aiming at ya
I play dva and sombra as my mains (have done for years, (i’m just a lurker) so i go bully her.
When im support…im just more careful, take natural cover. Dont get me wrong, i die to her, but i at least feel ive made widow work for it.
As for a rework?
Only thing i can think of is change her sniper mode so it fires more at the speed of a bolt action. Make the miss more costly.
remove her oneshot asap
Wide-Ohs
Now comes in one-shot flavors
widow already fires quite slow and is fairly even to a bolt action, if not slower. (Ana is a Boltaction) Boltaction rifles also can Quickscope, which the Chargemechanic prevents.
More recoil the further her charge is. Meaning she requires more time to reset her sight to the original position at the time of firing.
More damage flinching when scoped. The diviation is barely a character torso width when she’s damaged while scoped. You can just focus on sniping your attacker if your nerves are calm enough and tracking is above average.
More ammo consumed when at maxed charge.
I don’t think she needs this, but the only nerf I’d tolerate is her having low ammo. Like three shots before reloading. You might say “but she can still kill three squishies without reloading”, and my response to that is “if she can kill three with 100% accuracy, she deserves it”.
I’ve never heard someone competent at games like Counter Strike complain about widow. People don’t want to be aware of sight lines and positioning.
decrease her ttk by as much as u decrease her chargee time, make her an ashe with insane scope and buff her abilities
Less a lazer, but at least scope glint when she aims down sights would be nice. Works in Destiny 2 to tell is a sniper is camping the end of the lane or not when you peek.
She just doesn’t fit in this game, most players using her are not even good but it’s like old pharah situation, she was ruining entire games because whole team had to switch to counter it
reworking her in a mid-range assassin would have been more fun for everyone
even in your team it’s always annoying because they rarely help for objectives, just bad design
I honestly wanna change the reward of the headshot across the board. For example, soft/hard CC, AoE explosion damage after N secnods, debuff, buff to the shooter or better to make different things for each weapon.
xN headshot damage makes managing HP near impossible.