How will Brigitte effect every character?

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thought this could lead to some interesting discussion, i wont talk too much yet but i think roadhog will have a good synergy with her but her armour packs will make confirming a kill more difficult.

i think doomfist will be good against her, pharah will be good against her(for obvious reasons), i think she will help reaper too, junkrat will be extremely powerful against her i think he will work with her well too, zarya should be very good for her too i think

obviously other people will have much more detailed and better points about who she is good for and who she is bad for

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she can stun often, from what i tried…so…i don’t thing anyone is safe if near her

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i knew she had a stun but i didnt know how central it is to her kit, sounds good for the game imo

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Nearly every other support can find some synergy with her. Her ability to peel helps her cover Ana and Zenyatta’s weaknesses, and her stun makes it very easy for them to land their shots on a flanker. With Lucio or Moira, she enables a very tank-heavy or short range brawly comp. Mercy finds the least synergy with her of the healers, but she can still shield a key resurrection, in a pinch.

Any short-range tank or dps will love running with her while long-range characters or flankers won’t get as much value from her. If she’s not hitting things with her mace, she’s not doing much healing and even less damage, giving her little value with long or mid-range characters.

On the PTR, I found she’s got a ton of synergy with Zarya, in particular. The armor her heal and ult give stack under Zarya’s natural shields, like Torb armor, and therefore last a very long time. And they can constantly be protecting each other, and regenerating, so removing them before Zarya’s damage gets out of hand requires good focus.

Brigitte gets wrecked by Phara, Junkrat, and Soldier 76. I’m sure good Tracers will be able to handle her fine, but bad ones will have a new soft counter to deal with.

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I think she’ll whomp CQC heroes who are predictable, Reaper comes to mind here, as do Dive Tanks, but I’m not so sure she’ll be any different than McCree when it comes to heroes like Tracer.

She’ll struggle against poke comps, she needs to be hitting people to get any sort of decent throughput, and she’ll struggle with Dive since she doesn’t have the mobility to keep up like Lucio/Mercy, or the range like Ana/Zen.

I think her best synergies will be someone like Ana or Moira, with the sheer throughput they provide covering her weaknesses. Ana especially will benefit massively from having a Brigitte buddy, who can provide healing on the Ana in a pinch with her armour packs, as well as a semi-reliable way of peeling dive tanks off Ana.

I’ve heard people say she’ll be good against Moira, but personally I don’t buy it. She’ll blunt Moira’s damage for sure, but considering Moira is tuned in such a way that you get 50-100% more value out of healing than DPS’ing, it won’t hurt her massively.

From my experience, Brigitte works well WITH:

Reinhardt
Ana
Zarya
Roadhog
Orisa
Bastion
Moira
Reaper
Soldier
Zenyatta

Anyone who can stick by her side, and get benefits of her kit filled with peels and CC really.

Brigitte works poorly with:

Pharah
Widowmaker
Doomfist
Genji
Tracer
Winston

Brigitte is basically Lucio sans mobility. She’s not going to work well with heroes who naturally have to be out of her range.

Brigitte works well AGAINST:

Sombra
Symmetra
Winston
Dva
Doomfist (skill matchup, but she can disrupt his combos which gives her an edge)
Reaper
Reinhardt

Basically anyone who has to get up close and personal and doesn’t have access to movement abilities that make them erratic. She can either CC them, or waste their iniation cooldowns when they engage and boop them away.

Brigitte struggles AGAINST:

Junkrat
Pharah
Soldier
Widowmaker
Hanzo
Ana
Orisa
McCree
Mercy

Range and Poke are the bane of Brigitte, so she’s going to struggle against any hero that doesn’t let her close the gap, either through vertical mobility like Pharah, or just solid reliability at range like Soldier, Widowmaker or McCree.

At least that’s my initial impressions after a couple hours on the PTR. I might be right about some matchups, I might be wrong about them (it’s hard to test on 200 MS), but I feel that I’m mostly on the money about her strengths, weaknesses, synergies, anti-synergies and matchups.

Edit: This is purely in a teamfighting scenario. She might whomp or be whomped in a duel against them, but I’m considering purely about whether she can counter them or be countered by them.

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I found that if she’s paired with a Lucio, she actually can perform well in a dive comp (Winston, D.va, Genji, and Tracer), but she needs Lucio’s speed to keep up and have any value.

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she will counter tracer. All dps starts play on genji, coused it is only one viable alternative in OW from dps.

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wow there are some amazing posts here thank you, my worry in terms of for roadhog is that if she is in a team with zarya and you hook someone most likely that person is either getting a tonne of armour or a bubble, its a very simplified way of looking at things though because i know roadhog will work well with her a lot but ever since she was announced i felt she would have amazing synergy with zarya

thank you for all the interesting posts

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I feel like having her with a Lucio is a bit redundant. She doesn’t really provide anything a Dive comp might want, and her kill pressure and defensive ultimate aren’t nearly as impressive as Zenyatta’s.

I don’t buy the “Brigitte will hard-counter Tracer” argument. Granted when I played on the PTR I had 200 MS since there’s no Australian servers, but simply being able to combo her won’t necessarily make her a counter, else she’d never exist among all the McCree’s floating around.

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I’m looking forward to Brigitte healing me to max hp at a moment’s notice as Tracer using that pack she throws. Also I imagine I’ll be diving with 225 hp more…

Also that ult is going to double my health, and her primary healing mechanism will be great for keeping me topped off. Everyone is saying she’ll counter Tracer, but I’m really just looking forwards to diving the enemy team as a heavily armoured Tracer.

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the thought of a heavily armoured tracer scares me but its going to become a reality

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She’s a deathball healer. She’s going to be Zarya and Reinhardt’s best friend (after Ana and Moira of course).

The thing about her armour packs though, is that they’re not permanent (though the armour from her ult is). The extra HP you get from them disappears after 5 seconds (the CD on the ability is 6).

It isn’t a fire and forget ability like Torbjorn’s Armour Packs or Sym’s Shield Gen, you’ve got to actively maintain the extra HP.

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I think she’s going to shake up the meta like Jeff said she was.

First, her burst heal is something we’ve never had before, and the overheal-into-armor capacity means she can make her target extremely tanky. This means she will be able to blunt dive pretty hard if her player is good, and I’m very much looking forward to seeing good Brigitte’s out there.

Second, her Ult is preemptive, which is something we need more of, IMO, Most ults in the game are reactive or strategic, meaning you either use them in reaction to something specific (Zen and Lucio are reactive to damage or enemy ults, for example) or you use them and then make a decision based on weather or not they connect and/or try to combo them with another ult (comboing with a zarya ult, or a nano-blade). Brigitte’s ult, OTOH, is totally preemptive. You plan to use it ahead of time, and it really doesn’t combo well with anything. It just makes your team more likely to succeed at whatever they’re doing (the latest version of Valk is also preemptive).

Out of 27 heroes, there are now 6 preemptive ults (only about 1 in 5):

  1. Tac Visor
  2. Infra-sight
  3. Supercharger
  4. Valkyrie
  5. Teleporter and Shield Generator
  6. Rally

This is good because not everyone has the reflexes, or the time to develop the reflexes, to master reflexive ults, and strategic ults require teamwork that can be hard to come by in solo queue.

Third, because of her heal, her ult, her passive, and her short range I think she’s going to encourage an exciting close-range meta. Even without stacking tanks, it would be fairly effective in 2/2/2 with Brigitte opposite a Moira.

Why? Because Brigitte synergises fairly well with other short-range heroes.

Rein: She likes armor, and so does he. Her burst heal will make aggressive rein charges more survivable, and her ult will make an aggressive rein that stays within 8 meters of her almost unkillable while he swings away with his hammer.

Monkey Scientist and D.Va: Burst heal to help them get back to the main healer that Brigitte is also playing bodyguard for when they dive. With Brigitte on their team instead of seeing their health nosedive you’ll see it dip, then spike to +75 armor, and then spike again just before they die as they get out of dodge with monkey Scientist-leap.

Roadhog and Zarya: Lol. Just lol.

Brigitte just makes everyone around her more tanky, and that means every tank in the game will get tankier with her around. The limit to her abilities, IMO, is going to be the 5 second CD on her repair pack, which is going to restrict the number of tanks that she can break. IMO, this is why she is NOT going to break dive in favor of a 4-tank meta, even with a Moira on her team. Skilled teams are just going to watch for her burst heal to come out, and they’re going to swap targets as well as bring along as much AoE as they can.

The DPS are interesting as well. She doesn’t synergise well with long-range DPS like Soldier:76 and Widowmaker because they operate at ranges that make her worthless. So, picking Brigitte when you’ve got Soldier, Widow, and Phara on your team is tantamount to throwing the game (likewise, picking any of them when your support lineup is Moira + Brigitte is also throwing).

However, for the rest…

Doomfist: He likes it when things get chaotic and close range which is where Brigitte can wade into the fight and swing her flail around like mad. These two are going to work well together in teamfights. When doomfist is off on his own trying to flank, OTOH, not so much. Brigitte + Doomfist will work if Doomfist is working as part of a dive comp and is imply initiating into the teamfight from a flank. If he’s playing a hard flanker-assassin, you’re better off going Zen.

Genji: See Doomfist.

McCree: He loves the ranges that Brigitte is good at, and can still throw down at much farther ranges. He’s overall shorter range than soldier:76, but he needs to be in flail range to make his flashbang work, and being able to double-down on short range stuns should make any mccree salivate. Connect yourself to your Brigitte at the hip, and try not to throw your stun out at the same time she shield bashes.

Reaper: Yes plz. He’s going to be a nightmare with a friendly Brigitte keeping him up, and her ult will turn him into the left hand of Satan on the point.

Sombra: She’s a flanker assassin. They’re not going to get along too well unless you completely change up how you play her and try to do more team-fight support. The upcoming nerf to hack interruption should kill any idea that these two should ever be on the same team.

Tracer: Another hard flanker. They don’t belong on the same team.

Bastion: Damage reduction + 500 dps + burst healing + shield bash’s stun + an extra 600 health shield in an emergency? This is going to be an annoying pair.

Hanzo: Meh. We’ll see how he operates after scatter arrow is removed and they finish balancing him.

Junkrat: See McCree. Just replace all instances of “flashbang” with “trap”.

Mei: Yup. Girl power.

Torbjorn: I would have expected these two to work better together, but as far as I know her ult doesn’t stack with his armor packs. So they could actually work against one another. I don’t know that for sure though.

Support-wise, you’re going to want to match Brigitte with a main healer like Mercy, Ana, or Moira. Because Brigitte is short range, you’re probably going to use her more often than not with Ana or Mercy. However, in certain comps that revolve around Moira (like the Slambulance or other tank-heavy comps) Brigitte is going to fit right in.

That’s what I think she’s going to do from a teammate perspective.

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Doomfist - poke will be useful, shield will block ult, bash with some timing could be useful
Genji - kit can’t be deflected, bash leaves him open, shield to block some spam
Mccree - poke to counter ult, shield to block damage and ult but it’s a small shield side flashbang will connect and drop it armor might be a slight issue
Pharah- shield doesn’t have much control compared to Reinhardt pharah will be a counter to bridgitte
Reaper - poke and bash to counter ult, small shield likely can be ripped apart pretty easily but needs to be close so bash and poke as well as life steal isn’t going to be easy but his own life steal isn’t gong to make it easy for her either
Soldier - struggles against shields so might be issue, poke and bash won’t usually be in range
Sombra- hacked shouldn’t be too difficult to follow up if team is coordinated, losing shield from emp is rough
Tracer- everyone knows there’s a kill combo and even with out bash poke will force out a recall. Good tracers should be fine though
Bastion-eats shields and armor. Not sure if poke has any interaction with sentry but she’s likely not getting close enough anyways
Junkrat- mid range might get poked shouldn’t be bashed too often, high enough damage to shred her shield
Hanzo- won’t be getting bashed or poked in most cases, shield prob presents some issues but they likely don’t have much interaction
Mei- prob screwed, freezes comes out to get bashed and killed nothing new though this is most of the roster, armor means she likely survives a freeze and an icicle then poke and shield away
Torb- shield should help for the most part, haven’t checked but can prob walk up to and bash a turret to kill it pretty easily
Widowmaker- distance no shield shouldn’t be difficult to kill bridgitte, shield might be issue giving armor might make kills a little more difficult but overall I think bridgitte looses in most ranged encounters
Dva- bash and poke can interrupt bossy and ult, as well shield blocks ult, being dived shield to block shots and bash to stop her boost, flail can’t be Dm, overall decent matchup but I don’t bridgitte is going to put out enough damage on her own
Winston- hurt more with poke when leaping than dva, the tickle gun won’t get blocked by the shield, similar issues to Ana won’t be able to heal through Winston bubbles. Not a great counter to bridgitte bc of the poke but tickle gun will do ok against her as long as she is low armor
Reinhardt- bash goes through shield, poke can throw off charge, and shield cuts of shatter, she isn’t going to kill Reinhardt but they’ll keep each other in check I think
Zarya-bubbles prevent bash and poke, high energy rips apart shields, overall I think zarya will do ok against her
Orisa- not sure mostly plays at range favoring orisa, fortify negates poke and bash but rolling orisa isn’t difficult so she likely enables a team to roll over her especially with her passive healing
Roadhog- shield either blocks hook or a follow up shot as well you can then bash roadhog and or poke him away, not sure but might interrupt take a breather with bash might be useful
Ana-prob screwed, won’t be able to sleep or hit through shield walk up bash likely dead
Lucio-bash and poke will stop wallride, not sure he’ll die to bridgitte but she can definitely peel Lucio away
Mercy-bash and poke counter res other than that likely not a lot of interaction
Moira-both passively heal moira has more range and orbs go through shield but moira will struggle against armor
Symm- roughly the same range, barrier helps a little. I would say they are about even actually, symm locks on but bridgitte has healing
Zenyatta- plays at range, no shield up prob gets picked off, close up bash follow up not a lot Zen can do in response
Bridgitte-I think it comes down to whomever bashes first but I’m not sure
Tldr. Counters are likely pharah, Winston, junkrat, bastion, maybe zarya, mccree, sombra and ranged heroes like widow and hanzo

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unless you are a god like bastion player, you are going have another mountain placed upon your back. Bastion is a hard counter to Brigitte but without mobility or the ability to effectively work solo at most skill levels.

Brigitte is effectively another hard counter.

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thank you for this long and detailed post, seems like she is one of those characters who have plenty of characters where the match up is 50/50 which i enjoy

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Personally I hope she’s going to make Sym more popular, maybe even break the 1% pickrate barrier, because Armor+Shields is so good.

I played a few games as one of two Sym players with 4 Brigittes and we just had so much health it was disgusting. And they couldn’t even block our damage because the orbs went thru the enemy Brigitte barriers.

So yeah, good times a coming I hope.

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She synergizes really well with a lot of the ‘off-meta’ picks and also counters many of the meta hero choices. Shame we have to wait so long to play her in Comp.

Brigitte’s biggest problem is that she can be starved of resources really easily. If she doesn’t deal damage she’s not really doing… anything of value. Her ult charges quite slowly now as well. But if she gets close she’s a monster, so it’s hard to say how balenced or unbalenced she will become.

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Ok, so
Doomfist: Try to get an enviromental kill on her, otherwise stay away
Genji: Dash away, you have no chance
McCree: You might get a lucky flashbang but I’d generally stay away
Pharah: Try not to fly too low to the ground, otherwise you should be fine spamming at her
Reaper: Tele or wraith away, you might get lucky but not worth the risk
Soldier: Try to break her shield from distance then kill her, dont get too close
Sombra: hack her, tele away and hope your teammates will finish her off
Tracer: Be a GM tracer basically, otherwise blink away
Bastion: I dont think I have to say anything here
Hanzo: shoot from distance
Junkrat: spam mines and have trap in front of you in case of shield bash
Mei: Wait till you bait shield dash out and freeze her
torb: idk lol
widow: same as hanzo
dva: stay away
orisa: stay away
reinhardt: stay away
roadhog: stay away but you might kill her if you land hook
winston: stay away
zarya: idk, probs stay away
lucio: stay away
mercy: stay away
ana: try to sleep her, then nade and run
moira: fade away
symmetra: ok lets be honest nobody plays symmetra (sorry if this offended you )
zenyatta: stay away

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can i get banned for calling myself an idiot? because you are an idiot