If you’re dying frequently in ways you wouldn’t die on another hero, then you need to change Supports. Easiest way to think of it. The most important thing on Support is surviving long in teamfights.
Lots of Support players like to think of how their pick interacts with their team, but the flaw in that logic is that if you’re dead it doesn’t matter if your pick is “optimal.”
Pay attention to how your team plays around you and what the enemies are running. Sometimes in solo queue, the answer isn’t “I’m playing well, my team just needs to peel better” it’s actually: “this team isn’t peeling and probably won’t fix that so we need something else”
A lot of support players don’t realize that supports are tools with different functions that work best in certain circumstances and that you need to pick your hero based on your team’s composition and what the enemy is running.
I’d argue supports are the most important role for picking based off your tanks/DPS compared to other roles
People who want to be able to run every support/their main support in every situation and team comp are annoying tbh
There’s only 7 supports.
3 of them can’t be strong because of conflicting skill curves or OWL.
3 of them are ‘‘off healers’’ and don’t pair well with other off healers.
That leaves us with Ana.
GTFO with this ‘swap’’ bs.
Supports can’t and shouldn’t ever have to swap.
There’s barely anything to choose from. Let’s not even begin with the fun factor here.
Mercy Moira Bap and Ana can all be played as great main healers ??
Lucio and Zen are super strong off healers ?? And Mercy can be played as one too.
Brig is the only “weak” support rn but even she has a niche that she fulfills effectively
Everyone should have to swap. Get out with this “we shouldn’t have to swap” BS. Overwatch is about swapping
If enemy has an annoying Genji I will get off Mercy or Ana and go Moira. If they have a very immobile comp I’ll go Zen or Bap and spam them down. If we have dive I’ll go Mercy/Zen/Lucio/Ana to best enable my team. Mercy if we are needing help in sniper duels. Moira or Lucio if we are running deathball. Brig if we are doing a brawl on a KOTH map, etc.
Bap doesn’t really have any more unique ability than any of the other supports. If you want to simplify it, Bap is really just Lucio without the speedboost and his heal is on a cooldown / you shoot it. Brig is a frankenstein of characters but she’s basically lucio except with a stun and the heal is tied to dealing damage.
Realistically Brig is there if you need stuns and does mediocre healing on average. Her survivability is pathetic, though. She dies incredibly quickly and this isn’t including her shield. Her damage is consistent but terrible. If you can’t hit the skill-shot then you’re not using 25% of her kit and you might as well not play her. I had a match recently where the enemy team went 6 healers and Brig was destroying us because she was being pocket healed, completely negating her weakness being that she’s squishy. You take away the squishy part and she’s a really good pick… but that’s not the case in a normal match.
Bap is there if you need to deny kills from ults and team pushes but the bright flashy sphere in the sky is incredibly easy to kill it might as well just the same as the shift, an effect that lasts x time and it’s no better or worse(it’s actually a lot worse) than using Lucio’s ult. His shift just isn’t good and his RMB isn’t as reliable as Ana, Lucio, or Mercy.
Moira? Moira is the only unique “newer” support but even then they’ve tightened her skill floor/ceiling to the point that most people won’t be able to play her effectively. Her healing 100% relies on hitting that narrow blast of healing and her healing orb is mediocre at best. I’d argue she’s currently broken because her resource regain is cut down and her orbs are very ineffective right now. Her ult also relies on combos with other ults because how the hell else are you going to line up the ult so you hit several people at once? It’s such a narrow shot and it’s actually easy to avoid(although it goes through shields so tanks are screwed usually). She still gets kill steals with her damage orb, though. That’s her only bonus.
We really don’t need to talk about Zen. His role in the game has been overshadowed as new characters have come out. He used to be a good pick but he’s useless now compared to other heroes.
Most games that I win includes Lucio, Mercy, and Ana. All three of those are reliable and do everything better than the other supports. The only newer support I’ll admit I need to play more to settle a full opinion on is Bap but his grenades are too difficult to hit imo and his invulnerability just isn’t worth it at all. You can maybe save a few team mates if you use it at the exact second an ult pops off or to give your team a few seconds to heal up but it’s a useless ability given how it’s used and what it does.
So we are just going to ignore IF? and his long range healing and damage output
Alright then
Oh somebody hasn’t played the game in a month and it shows. Zen is one of the most picked supports and has been super buffed to the best state he’s ever been in. He’s insane right now and has been for weeks.
Your entire post is filled with misinformation and bad takes. You just sound like you resort to easier and reliable supports in your comfort zone instead of even putting in the effort/skill on others to get great value from them too, and then call the other heroes bad or useless just bc you can’t get value from them personally.
I literally talking about that in my post. Not my fault if you didn’t read it.
That’s… Not true at all. He still lacks reliable defence and his kit is entirely based on having good aim. His heal isn’t even that good and the only reason he’d be remotely good recently is the lack of shields and even then Zen is very clearly a damage-oriented support. You apply a heal orb and forget about it until you get to ult.
Nice job being ignorant. I play all support heroes except for Ana, Bap, and Zen. For one obvious reason. I’ve had good Brig matches when my team was able to make up for my squishiness. Moira is a hit or miss.
It literally is true. This entire statement and claim that Zen is “useless” just shows an extreme lack of credibility and game understanding on your part.
I am no longer engaging with someone this disconnected from reality
See I partially disagree with that statement because for heroes like widow or ana, even tho their kit is aim based, the value they bring to the table is eons above other heroes and that big of a gap shouldn’t exist. Don’t get me wrong, I’m an aim advocate, I’m just not a broken aim advocate
If the support is dying constantly, then the dps should be protecting them. Tanks are busy on the frontline, and anti-flanking has been gutted in the support role. dps need to learn that this is a team game.
How is a Tank support to both protect the frontline and the backline. Tanks really can’t do anything to flankers bullying the healers. that job falls on teh dps.