so only way to get defensive assist is by amp healing when an teammate kills an enemy right? i tend to amp more towards start of fight when i see the first half heath sign, should i be waiting a little longer, and how much longer if so?
Why do you need to improve the stat exactly?
Stats don’t matter.
Just play the hero well.
its something i suck at more than most lucio players according to overbuff, hence by working on that stat i will see the most improvements to my lucio play.
Not necessarily true.
Stats don’t mean a lot, as they are completely relative.
You might get 50 elims per game as Lucio, but if you’re killing Bronze players as him, does that make you way better than a Lucio in grandmaster who gets 30 per game?
No, but Overbuff will say you are.
Focus on the actual issues in your gameplay outside of stats to improve your play.
Maybe you are using amp it up too early, but your defensive assist stat won’t tell you that. That stat only goes up if you amp it up when an ally happens to kill somebody.
Use your own judgement and think about if it was a good call to use it then, or if you should have waited a few seconds for more damage to be incoming.
Reviewing game footage will help a lot with that.
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It makes you’re a better Bronze Lucio than the other person is GM Lucio. Stats do matter. They don’t tell the full picture, but of course they are metrics of performance.
I bet you that GM would do a lot better in Bronze than the Bronze lucio.
They’re metrics of performance, but performance is pretty hard to quantify, so they’re not very good at it.
Your question is very comp dependent also. In a deathball or GOATS style comp, most speed boost into a point to initiate the fight thus resulting in more offensive assists. Healing amp would be in case of a prolonged fight in order to sustain the team.
Also, healing amp in lower elo’s, I find is done reactionary, i.e. in response to an enemy offensive alt, grav, hammer, blizzard, etc.
Try healing amp during your team’s DPS ults that leave them vulnerable, like: barrage, deadeye, and Reaper’s ult (can’t remember the name, it’s late.)
Part of playing any hero well is using the toolkit correctly in the correct situations. Hes asking a very valid question here about the correct time to use amp. Stats DO matter. With lucio stats are a HUGE indicator of if you are using the character correctly.
OP you already know to save amp for engagements so thats really good.
I dont use amp heal at the start of fights. I use instead amp speed when the initial fight happens and first kills are going out and switch to heal part way through amp and back to speed. I dont try to top off players with amp at the start of fights but more toward the middle.
defensive assist is your team getting kills while or shortly after you healed them
so either you only heal when there is no fight, or you don’t heal enough.
offensive assists are while speed boosting, and i don’t know exactly but i think sound barriered targets also grant defensive assists
so if you are getting very few defensive assists you seem to not play enough with your team or rely heavily on the other healer to heal, maybe look out more for injured teammates and stay near them, don’t wall ride around and frag as much
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My other post goes over how that’s a valid question, but he doesn’t need the stat to figure that out.
Defensive assists tell him one thing: if he was amping it up when his teammates killed something.
It doesn’t really tell him anything more.
Reviewing your own game footage and determining if the actual decisions you made were good is a far better method for improvement than looking on Overbuff at your stats.
you have to actually be amping to get an assist. not just in heal/speed. OP already knows this and is asking a slightly more specific question.
Your advice although its correct doesnt address his question directly. Its not a complicated question for anyone that has some time in lucio. Its like someone asking you “how do i change the oil in my car” and getting the response “well first you need a whole new car that things a piece of crap”.
Hes directly asking “Should i use amp further into a fight? I tend to use it right when damage goes out to my team.” He feels it being incorrect and needs advice about a specific thing.
I use amp healing either when the enemies are pushing or when we are pushing.
Obviously when my teammates are low ofcourse. No need to use it at the beginning. It’s a waste.
I also use it to heal a tank or myself quickly to get ready for next fight.
Basically don’t use it at the beginning of a fight. Just be around your teammates. Then amp it up when it’s getting heaving.
That’s because I didn’t have specific advice for that. It was a rather vague question, honestly.
I don’t know if he should amp up when his allies are at half health. Does he have another healer topping them up?
Is he solo healing?
Or is his other healer like a Zen or something?
Edit addition because this was a big one I forgot: How fast are they taking damage?
I don’t know, so I can’t say. These things change the answer to some degree.
That’s why in my advice I said to look at the specific instances instead of at the whole or at the stats.
do you not play comp? have you never played lucio? why are you giving advice to a guy asking a specific lucio question if you dont even play comp or the hero hes asking about lol How can you not even know how much damage in general happens at the start of engagements?
His question isnt vague its extremely specific. He already knows he cant wait till his team is HALF health to think about amping or he wouldnt be asking if he should use it right away. If youve played in comp yes likely there ARE other healers LOL and yes they will keep people topped up mostly. Yep they might be zens or be bad or be battle mercy same as everyones games. What even are these scenarios?
Lucio was my competitive main for 5 seasons.
Because frankly I don’t know how much damage people do in general all the way down in silver, and believe it or not, there are things that mitigate damage in the game that would mean that a team would take less damage in some engagements than others.
Like, a team standing behind a rein shield probably doesn’t need amped heals as much as a team who is running Hog/dva.
Then he might not need to amp heals at all.
Again though, I don’t know because 99% of Lucio’s skill is being able to read an engagement and determine when to use amp it up and what boost to amp up.
It’s not as cut and dry as “Use amp it up when Genji reaches 127 health exactly”
ah! finally getting the answers i’m looking for 