How to Improve Mercy and Blatantly Disregarding Feedback and Silencing Others

[Novalysium-1136]

@Lock2r-4467

Resurrect is VERY similar to transcendence,

This is the most stupid comparison ever made in this forum.

Transcendence can be negated by Ana grenade / D.va ult or simple forcing Zen to spend it or kill him because he is the most easiest targets to shut down, he has 0 mobility 0 self sustain besides those 50 shields.

Resurrection as ult had 0 counter play beside hunting Mercy first every single time unless she hide the whole match.

Your people know even less about what to do with Mercy, your people or Mercy whiners only are looking for buffs to a broken hero, you don’t want a reason to don’t pick Mercy every single time, you want to keep having this endless stupid must pick every single game.

The rest of the player base are tired of Mercy in this game we want to see others supports to be played, another duo that could work perfect without her.

[Absql-1290]

@Novalysium-1136

Resurrection as ult had 0 counter play

Dead eye
Self Destruct
Graviton
Death Blossom
Earth Shatter
Rip-Tire
Minefield
Blizzard
Hack
EMP

Those all have the potential to counter Mass resurrect if the enemy team is smart and have a brain.

[Tournament-1420]

Mercy is a must pick due to the fact that she is consistent with her healing, very mobile, can be in positions where other healers cannot get to while also bringing back a fallen ally with full hp.
Her healing has just been reduced by 10HP/S which reduces the differences in healing power between her and other supports. Nerfing her Guardian Angel by increasing its cooldown would completely kill off her survivability.
Her Ultimate is very different to other heroes where as everyone has a sudden surge in power or is given a brief moment of unrivaled defensive or offensive capabilities where as Mercys ultimate is more sustained and not so much of a sudden peak in power.
As many have mentioned that her Resurrect seems to be the issue with her. I think the value of resurrect changes depending on the target. For example if used on a Roadhog who has an Ultimate ready is much more value than a Symmetra. Not only because the Roadhog has an ultimate ready but it is was essentially a 600hp Heal ontop of that.
I think a fix to resurrect might be to bring back an ally with a set amount of hp, example 250. Where this would bring back a full hp tracer but a Half hp Reinhardt. This would mean she still has to heal back anyone with more than 250hp which in-turn would speed up her ultimate charge. Also another change could be an ultimate lockout peroid for a recently resurrected ally to like 3 seconds or something of that nature so they cannot immediately turn the tides.
The problem with Mercys “E” is that it can bring back anyone with full hp, while they can use an ultimate immediately after furthermore increasing its value. If this seems like too much of a nerf they can always tweak the cast time of her “E” aswell to compensate for it. To anyone saying that i am against Mercy and that i hate the hero, its actually what i’ve been playing the most recently which is also how i reached level 5 endorsement.

[Hotaru251-1596]

@ĤĔALŜBADMAŊ-1199

mercy received a buff to her Resurrect ultimate which made her invulnerable

this.

the ENTIRE issue was this.

it removed the counterplay to mass rez

Also agree Valk is the thing that is stopping her from being balanced.

it has been gutted so much it isnt even worthy of beign an ultimate.

Valk now is a mere slow flying with option of zen ult group healing or Orisa damage boosting.

Mercy, as she was made and you stated it, was a ST healer.
Making her do AoE healing is gross and cuts down on the actual group healers usefulness (poor lucio…)

@ĤĔALŜBADMAŊ-1199

We as a community have never received any knowledge that the developers of this game are even paying attention to what we’re saying in the huge mega-threads that they use to shut us up.

we silently have…in the form of nerfs that dont fix the problem

@ĤĔALŜBADMAŊ-1199

After receiving 10 nerfs, how dare you say that this is completely a success? We all know for a fact that it is not! If she was fine Mercy wouldn’t be receiving nerfs MONTHS AFTER IT BEING SAID THE REWORK IS A SUCCESS

agreed. you could of fixed mercy 1.0 and 1.5 in less time.

@ĤĔALŜBADMAŊ-1199

Our feedback is being ignored, and it always will be unless we genuinely make such an outrage that its impossible to ignore, but the probability of that is very slim.

nothing makes people more angry than being given silent treatment.

@ĤĔALŜBADMAŊ-1199

Mercy is in her solidified category of single target healer and that Resurrect is EARNED, not given for free every 30 seconds.

yup. The feeling of reviving someone in 1.0 Mercy was great and extremely satisfying. It felt powerful and influenced the game.

2.0 rez? 30sec have past? guss i’ll revive the next person dead… /sigh.

no enjoyment. no feeling of effect. boring.as.sh*t.

@ĤĔALŜBADMAŊ-1199

But wait!!! Mercy’s will just hide and rez and its not very fun for the enemy team!!!

First off, what ultimate in Overwatch is fun for the enemy team?

let alone Mercy’s rez was unique to her while there were numerous heroes who could team wipe with a single ultimate AND on top of that multiple could be on any given team at the same time.

Also Mercy 1.0 made the enemy team play better/smarter. (wel lshould of anyways)

Knowing Mercy could undo kills means that they should try and kill her asap or save an ult or 2 for after she uses it.

@ĤĔALŜBADMAŊ-1199

Resurrect
○ removed invulnerability to Mercy herself
○ slightly shortened range of which can be resurrected
○ LOS checks added so you cannot resurrect through the floor or walls.

i’d also add on a damage reduction (easily balance-able to a healthy way) in place of god mode buff. Just so she isnt instantly killed if she has to walk mroe than 3feet.

@ĤĔALŜBADMAŊ-1199

if we EVER go back to Mercy 1.0 the most probable changes are removing invulnerability for Mercy

this should of been the 1st thing they implemented to fix the issue before a rework.

was an enjoyable post to read.
[likes it]

[Jigsawm8-1941]

Remove res, replace with a smaller version of Ana’s kit. E.g. A mini-nano which grants the target damage reduction just less duration & only a 20% mitigation which would be used to help tanks push the choke or combo’d with hero ults similar to nano. Or maybe an E that increases her healing from 50hp/s -> 70hp/s or something.

[Hotaru251-1596]

@Jigsawm8-1941

Remove res, replace with a smaller version of Ana’s kit.

plz no…
do you WANT Ana mains to complain about Mercy even more?

[Jigsawm8-1941]

Ana needs a buff regardless, the only reason why mercy is better than her currently is because of res & healing through shields. I think the second E idea which mimics ana’s biotic grenade healing increase would be a good.

Fiddling with res constantly illustrates why it’s bad for the game

[Lock2r-4467]

Nice to see all it took was 3 perfectly civil comments to break your surface and show your Mercy-hating self.

@Novalysium-1136

@Lock2r-4467

Resurrect is VERY similar to transcendence,

This is the most stupid comparison ever made in this forum.

Because calling me stupid absolutely justifies your point.

You fail to refute the fact that both ults are designed to undo damage, only that one does so while the damage is being done while the other does it after the damage is done.

@Novalysium-1136

Transcendence can be negated by Ana grenade / D.va ult or simple forcing Zen to spend it or kill him because he is the most easiest targets to shut down, he has 0 mobility 0 self sustain besides those 50 shields.

Resurrection as ult had 0 counter play beside hunting Mercy first every single time unless she hide the whole match.

Right, let’s see…so things that stop Mercy from flying in
Deadeye zoning
Tactical visor
Sleep
Doomfist CCs
Mei wall
Brigitte Stun
McCree stun
Minefield
Hack
EMP
Barrage
Death Blossom
RIPtire
Actual aiming lol who would have thought

and after the rez
Graviton
Shatter
Death Blossom again
Deadeye again
Barrage again

The only reason resurrection had less counterplay than it was suppose to is because it could rez through walls, which OP is already proposing to fix.

I also hope you realize it’s been a good year since Mercy’s rework. There have been a whole new bunch of heroes and reworks to old heroes that bring new counters to mercy. Players are also not as retarded as to simply look at the flying moth any more.

@Novalysium-1136

Your people know even less about what to do with Mercy, your people or Mercy whiners only are looking for buffs to a broken hero, you don’t want a reason to don’t pick Mercy every single time, you want to keep having this endless stupid must pick every single game.

THIS is where we can see very clearly what kind of Mercy hater you are. You just rage while completely missing the point.

Mercy was NEVER a must pick during her mass rez.

Did you get that message clearly enough?

Mercy. Was. Never. A. Must. Pick. With. Mass. Rez.

But she was–is–with Valkyrie.

So really, what we’re doing is making Mercy more engaging to play while NOT being a must pick. Funnily enough, you seem to think we’re trying to make Mercy a must pick.

If we wanted Mercy to be a must pick, all we need is to leave her as she is.

Next time instead of just calling people stupid and hating on any Mercy threads, it might help to read through the comments and reflect on who’s being stupid here

[Hotaru251-1596]

@Jigsawm8-1941

Ana needs a buff regardless, the only reason why mercy is better than her currently is because of res & healing through shields.

Ana is a result of good theory, bad in practice design.

Ana has ALWAYS had 2x (to soon to be) 3x more healign than a mercy.

Ana’s issue isnt casue of rez or barriers.
i mean ana is 1 of only 2 healers with hard CC. and has the unique heal blocking

Her entire design is just bad in practice.

Snipign healer. fun, neat idea on paper.

in actual game play? not good.

no control over if she is healin or damaging with every shot, decent chance of missing her shots (throguh her players bad aiming or her targets moving out of LoS, or enemy blocking the shot), and being a hybrid healer/dmg support. (if u can do both you tend to not be as good as purists who are mainly only good in 1 of them)

@Jigsawm8-1941

Fiddling with res constantly illustrates why it’s bad for the game

except it was fien for a year and only reason it caused issues was god mode added to it which led to SR abusing hide and mercy players (as god mdoe removed its coutnerplay in that she could be kileld before it finished)

[Jigsawm8-1941]

Ana’s problem is one million percent because of her inability to shoot through barriers. She has other problems with her but these are intentional problems so she has some counter play (lack of mobility & little self-sustain). Every other healer has the movement/abilties to navigate with their team to get off the heals but Ana’s design is to be behind her team and not in the fray which shields blocks her ability to do. I can almost personally guarantee if she could shoot through barriers she’d go back to being a must pick & destroy dive pickrate. I’m not sure if you were around when she was at her prime but the reason she was nerfed heavily (in areas that weren’t actually the problem) was because biotic grenade was enabling the tank meta, it’s increased healing potential meant she could throw it and her & lucio could get all 3-4 of their tanks back up to full health in the span of 3-4 seconds every 8 seconds, it made all team fights take forever and the game was about who could charge their ults faster in these big fights.

Regarding res I think there’s a difference between “fine” and “unhealthy”. Whilst it wasn’t overpowered like it currently is, it still wasn’t healthy for the game which was most of the feedback given and why it was changed in the first place.

[Hotaru251-1596]

@Jigsawm8-1941

I can almost personally guarantee if she could shoot through barriers she’d go back to being a must pick & destroy dive pickrate.

doubtful.

Yes it would help her, but that alone wont fix her issues.

need to heal someone the ape is abotu to kill in his barrier? even IF she could heal through barriers…you still run into she has no CHOCIE if the bullet is heal or dmg one. enemy blocking shot would STILL happen. especially with large enemies ;/

[ExiledJr-2291]

Really well researched, written and well constructed post.

I guess I now should officially class myself as a mercy main, as seemingly that’s the majority of what I’ve played for the last 12 months.

I don’t mind playing her now, but for a good 6 months, I actually hated myself, I was angry that I was forced to play this hero.
I started my OW career in season 2 as an Ana main, placed high Diamond and ended in Masters, I’ve consistently played in Masters and more recently in GM since then.

I still wish I didn’t have to play Mercy, but it’s a done deal, if I don’t then it’s basically soft throwing. I know some people can make Ana work, but these people are few and far between and even still Mercy would better in most situations.

Something needs to be done, a year later and we as a community are still forced to play Mercy, or we’re throwing. The few times I’ve tried to play something else I’ve been called out by my team for not playing Mercy.
Pretty sad situation we’re in.

Was Mercy 1.0 better??
Every mercy thread I’ve read and the subject of “hide and seek” is brought up, the OP always claims “they were bad mercy players, most of us didn’t do that etc etc”.

Forgive me, but my memory is long and i remember practically every single match that we had a mercy player, we went through the whole hide and res scenario, it happened in almost every single match.
I can almost still hear the screaming “die on point now”.

So don’t try to rewrite history, we all remember how it went and the majority of you did this, particularly after it became public knowledge about the SR exploit.
Those who didn’t do this got screwed over and got less than 20 SR, those who did got 30+.

Mercy 1.0 was not good for a few reasons, 1.5 was broken and all iterations since then have been beyond a joke.
Even after the current PTR patch goes live, she is still the best support to pick.

So here we are, with a watered down boring hero, which I certainly don’t want to play (and i know many of you are the same) BUT if I wish to keep playing Overwatch, I have to play.

Seriously at this stage, I vote to just remove her from the game. Do a cinematic short of her being killed and remove her, done. The world would be a better place.

[Tomaxx-11120]

@ĤĔALŜBADMAŊ-1199

We as a community have never received any knowledge that the developers of this game are even paying attention to what we’re saying in the huge mega-threads that they use to shut us up.

Maybe because they don’t need to tell you? A little self entitled don’t ya think? Also they don’t ignore feedback but just because you say it, doesn’t mean they agree or more than likely you offer nothing constructive and just complain.

[Ondrius-2750]

Nice post summing everything up that’s wrong with mercy 2.0. I’ve stopped playing OW since the Mercy 2.0 patch because I liked Mercy with the Massrez but with Valkyre as ultimate I found her extremly boring to play.
But Blizzard won’t revert anything because the rework is a sucess right? Right?!

[MoirahCarey-2744]

Really great post, I think you’ve summed it up well.

Now if only they listened, but they wont. Blizzard will never acknowledge the rework was a failure. Remember they were surprised players thought the Sombra’s “buffs” were actually nerfs, which they initially were.

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

@Novalysium-1136

Resurrection as ult

One of the only ults that can be countered by good ult economy…

@Novalysium-1136

Your people know even less about what to do with Mercy, your people or Mercy whiners only are looking for buffs to a broken hero,

How so? He was complimenting a iteration of Mercy that was proven to be weaker than the current Mercy we have.

@Novalysium-1136

The rest of the player base are tired of Mercy in this game we want to see others supports to be played, another duo that could work perfect without her.

The rework made Mercy a must pick which is why him and most of us want Blizz to revert her. You can’t argue that Mercy pre-invul made Mercy a must pick…

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

@Novalysium-1136

That was the main reason why devs reworked Mercy on the bad way.

Completely false… Don’t chat about a topic you don’t know about please.

[Nandalee-2753]

Nice post but they will ignore it like all the other good feedback.

[Novalysium-1136]

@Lock2r-4467

Because calling me stupid absolutely justifies your point.

1. I didn’t calling you stupid, learn to read before playing the victim role here, I said your comparison between Transcendence and OLD resurrect was stupid.

@Lock2r-4467

You fail to refute the fact that both ults are designed to undo damage

Do you even play the game? or this is some just some hardcore trolling?.

When in this forum or X streamer w.e people complained about Transcendence being a BROKEN ULT and needs a NERF? REALLY? this extreme famboyism toward Mercy is on another level.

OLD Resurrect DOESN’T UNDO DAMAGE, it brings back PEOPLE who actually is out of the game, and places them back with FULL HP and with a small invulnerability frame, with no CAST TIME, no LOS, no nothing, in fact even MERCY was completely INVULNERABLE while using resurrection so all your arguments like "WELL USE DOOMFIST CC!! 4HEAD " is completely invalid and the most ridiculous one.

And yeah because Reaper and Mcree can use their ult two times in less than 30 seconds, I mean this guy is saying REAPER and Mcree ults are GOOD in this game, do you even know that even Pros uses Mcree deadeye for reload instead of using it? then again , do you even play this game? I think not.

What’s next? “Well Bastion counters Ress too! learn to play! Wtf!?”

@Lock2r-4467

Mercy was NEVER a must pick during her mass rez

Yes she was, everyone were sick of dealing with her the whole game because, pros complained everyone complained about it, the Rework didn’t happen because Blizzard wanted to do it, it was killing the fun of the game.

MERCY HATTERR!!! HATERR STOP! LEAVE HER ALONE!.

??

Yeah because 90% of the player base who are tired of Mercy being a must pick for like a year are haters too right? seriously this why a lot of people avoid this forum , is nothing but some extreme fanboyism on Mercy.

[Novalysium-1136]

Yeah Blizzard reworked Mercy because

"Oh dear Mercy players, the lovely Mercy players! we reworked your hero because we thought your people were tired of "Heroes never die “POTG over and over and over and over and mass 5 ress people from behind walls !”