Hes no longer top dps in the game. His stats are dropping fast.
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Oh noses!
Heās barely slightly under Asheās PR, while still having a better WR!
Heās still got double the PR of the #3 DPS in GM, the Genji mains whining for immediate buffs to a top tier DPS are delusional.
If Genji deserves buffs, who in the game doesnāt?
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He has 2.57% PR today and yesterday he had 42.94% WR.
You are looking at the whole week, he has dropped from around 10% PR to 2.5% PR just this week, so you are just looking at the average.
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Im not whining saying he deserves buffs. Also, his pickrate is going down as Asheās goes up, cause he was nerfed in a week or less. If you look at trend there are days where his pickrate is 2.69 with a 47% winrate. I much rather have spread reverted and keep firerate, cause this makes him feel too clunky.
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You canāt reduce the sample size to fit your narrative, because looking at a tiny sample is meaningless.
Heās had his revert for the entirety of the week. If today his WR suddenly jumps up to 75% does it mean heās broken? No, because a single dayās worth of games is meaningless, and you need at least a weeks worth of games to average out into a worthwhile number.
Ofc I canāt really do it, the point is that it is declining, and quite fast.
also the problem with WR (and also PR to an extent) is that you canāt really give it as a stat until the day ends, because those are not the final numbers.
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ā¦which the Devs clearly stated was the entire point of reverting a couple of his buffs.
They wanted his stats to go down, but there is a line that it crosses, if his stats will keep going down he would be at the same state he was before (stat-wise), and the Devs didnāt like him being there either.
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Genji was fine pre buff.
It doesnāt matter if he was fine, weak, or overpowered, he could be improved, was Genji balanced pre buff? yes at least close to it. but how he was played was the problem, his base kit was really weak while his ult was really strong, he was a Bladebot.
Iām looking for more than just balanceā¦
Either way, there are other heroes that counter genjiās ult aside from Baptiste. For instance, Sombra, RoadHogās Ultimate, and Lucioās ult. If you canāt counter the blade, then its your fault. Second, Genji does not have ādouble the PRā of the #3 DPS in GM. In fact, it has around the same pickrate as Mcree and Widow.
Thereās also no point in responding to me as you made realize that ignorance is truly āa blissā, a bubble where one fails to accept different perspectives. Youāre really in that bubble. If you honestly think that Genji will remain one of the best DPS heroes in the game without playing the character for a long time, then I donāt know what else to say to you. I have my hopes that when Blizzard checks Genjiās stats over a month, they will realize that they need to buff Genji again and place him in a good spot.
I never said Blade was uncounterable, nor gave you any reason to think such a thing.
Youāre just moving goalposts because you said Lamp āhard countersā and āmaking it unable to receive value from itā and those statements are clearly untrue.
Also are you suggesting someone should run Hog in high level play to counter Blade? How do you think thatāll typically work out for their team in the current meta?
I think Genji will likely drop to upper mid tier, which is above where he should be performing in a double barrier meta. He SHOULDNāT be a top DPS choice in a meta that has Orisa/Rein, Sig & Brig, itās practically his worse meta to play into.
Youāre arguing for buffs to a character who just got some of his buffs reverted a week ago, and are clearly unhappy unless you can dominate with Genji in a meta he should barely be viable in.
My bubble is reality, yours is bias.
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no more self stuns.
and you should keep thinking this.
this is alright, tbh id like to see it around 10-11 before a full revert
if his damage is going to be at 30 i think his ROF should be at .75 to reward more mechanical play rather than spamming right click
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No, Iām simply listing heroes that have the possibility to counter Genjiās nanoblade
Additionally, Baptisteās lamp does counter genjiās blade as it gives the enemy time to react to the genji and focus him down. Now does this āhard counterā, no. Me having a discussion with you made me realize that Baptisteās lamp does not hard counter Genjiās blade. So Iām wrong for that.
This is the problem I have with people who have never spent a good portion of their time playing Genji. They say that we shouldnāt complain because we still retained 2 out of our 4 buffs. But they neglect the fact that the spread change/deflect change wasnāt really that impactful for really good genji players. Sure, the spread allowed genji players to hit triple shuriken more consistently. Sure, the deflect change allowed genji players to cancel their deflect mid-battle. But these are buffs that good GM genji players could already do, just to a slightly lesser degree. So in reality, the 2 buffs Blizzard gave them only enhanced their capability by a small margin, leaving them pretty much where they began at.
You wouldnāt feel it as the genji, but as the enemy you will have time to react, it is also helps to keep this more balanced
Also if you want (and can) to try it out you can try using a macro to see how the timing look.
Just simply make a macro that presses the deflect button (E) waits for 0.25s then uses secondary fire (RMB).
It doesnāt feel bad, now you can rarely pull it off under 0.25s, but when you can it is frustrating for the enemy.
It doesnāt effect dash as much as you think, it practically doesnāt effect it at all, it just gets rid of a random reset.
I agree that we need to try it out but for the sake of this post I want to make something that you can visualize better, and I want to keep the effect of the nerfs and the buffs relatively similar, if I wouldnāt change the spread he would be too strong.
It does make it more spam-able, but again the whole point of visualizing and I want his secondary fire to be stronger so if I take away the spread I have to make the recovery time shorter.
Originally I made it so the recovery time is 0.7 but the spread is 10-11, but because I canāt know what the size of spread would be I had to change it.
so you want buffs all roundā¦ got itā¦ No thanks
Have you read the whole post?
There are more nerfs than buffs
Genji did not need to be changed period. I agree with the deflect that was a QOL change. But over all he has the best kit in the game. And had one of the most balanced kits. But Blizzard doing Blizzard balancing ruined that.
Revert everything expect the deflect change and give dash charges and does no damage. Then ill be happy with how genji is
Have you played Genji?
He is a blade bot now, his ult is way better compared to his base kit, all you do is farm blade until you get it, then you nanoblade, hopefully win the fight and do it all again, thatās not a balanced kit if you ask me, Iām proposing to buff his mid fight and nerf his ult.
Also the dash idea isnt a good one, dash is mainly used as a finishing tool, or as an engagement tool, and for both of them you need it to do damage, also dash reset isnāt problematic as is especially if they add what I proposed which gets rid of random dash reset.
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