How to defeat Sombra and stop crying (from a Sombra main xD)

[Madcap-11935]

@viggo-22995

(and take more damage)

This was dropped from her kit as part of hack with the rework, she got more gun damage and Virus instead.

[viggo-22995]

@Alone-2496

orb can’t use overload (his main defensive ability), Symm can’t use turrets or TP, Soldier can’t use helix rockets or station, and Cass can’t use roll and nade. It makes a big difference for all those heroes.

For soldier, even after the hack, he can pressure on sombra and uses his abilities 1.5 sec just after (and it’s quick)
Cass, he doesn’t care if he shoots on the head
Torb and Sym put turrel before the teamfight and if they put in the good place, Sombra gets trouble when she try to hack or make damage.

[Nyxa-21603]

You beat sombra by playing close to your team and using your ears.

She is very annoying though and I think she should have a time limit on stealth again (give back her old movement speed in stealth though)

[Bonhomme-11200]

There are just too many people playing her, lol. She’s so annoying. Same with Genji and Tracer. I suppose it’s their time to shine.

[MiguelRivera-11892]

@viggo-22995

skill issue. Bad positionning,

LOLOL bold of a “sombra main” to comment on ANYONE’S skill or positioning considering she runs around completely invisible and gets free escapes. Sombra never almost never gets punished for bad positioning or plays.

[viggo-22995]

I talked about tank, not sombra

[OneTrickPony-11260]

@DeLos-1943

Who says?

I think the majority of issue people have with Sombra boil down to:

1. (Most common) Some content creator/streamer and/or just loud people in the forums/social media/etc complain about her so people just jump on the bandwagon.
2. Left over frustration with the old, longer ability lockout hack. Which has not been a thing in a while, but is still in people’s mind.
3. Stubborn refusal to understand how she works in order to adapt. Which is think is largely due to her being trash for so long…which leads to…
4. She was trash for so long as she became decent the increase in her representation from trash tier to middle of the pack is a big shock. People notice that change more than the actual over represented and over performing heroes.

Sombra is a solid mid tier pick. She is not bad. But she is nowhere nearly as strong as people like to think.

Actually it isn’t any of that. Just two simple things.

CC. People hate CC. It is known.

Stealth. This mean any bad player can wait at the optimal position to engage without the risk that should come with it.

Her issue isn’t her strength. She just has a garbage design.

[MoreBullets-1793]

@McMercee-1378

What s about her unfun and unfair factors?

Every hero has something that’s “unfair and unfun” (if that’s even a word). Doesn’t make Sombra stand out in the crowd.

[Fish-17309]

Winning or losing vs Sombra isn’t the issue, that’s evident from her winrates. She’s one of the characters that makes the game revolve around her. Same kind of issue with Mauga and Widowmaker.

[viggo-22995]

all complains are about Sombra, not about themselves and they don’t admit it

[DeLos-1943]

@OneTrickPony-11260

CC. People hate CC. It is known.

Perspective:
Her ability lock out is 1.5 secs. (In which you can still move and fire.

Sleep dart is a can be as long as 5 secs. In which you can do nothing. And even waking up after taking damage is a minimum of .5 secs. You are much more likely to die if you get darted than if you get hacked.

Ana doesn’t get remotely as much hate. So, no CC in general is not the issue.

[TiderLaw-2312]

Try playing as Wreckingball against Sombra. If there was ONE hardcounter against WB, it is Sombra. It is utter torture. Blizzard keeps buffing her and making it even harder for Ball. This tonedeaf balancing makes me want them fired.

[Axafekt-1863]

@viggo-22995

playing with your mate to force a 2V1 against sombra, and let her fall back (or killed if Sombra is to greed)

I keep seeing this. But ive died alot surrounded by my team as a support to sombre who pops in deletes me and vanishes.

[McMercee-1378]

Fair, but how come people complain more about certain heroes than the others? Or do you really think Overwatch development team is so good they nailed every hero design and rework?

[Recovery-11900]

ball needs seem kind of counter, if you played OW1 you would know the real pain of not being able to do anything for 7 seconds while hacked, instead of 1 second.

[MoreBullets-1793]

@McMercee-1378

Fair, but how come people complain more about certain heroes than the others?

Because everyone has an ego to satisfy and they’ll complain if they ever feel slighted in some fashion. Like you said, there’s a difference between something being annoying to deal with versus something that is genuinely OP. You’ve seen the threads complaining about Moira lately?

[Omnimoverse-1875]

The fact that you actually admitted to and enjoy spawned camping and ruining others enjoyment says a lot and not surprised you main sombra since she is the embodiment of that kind of style. Pitiful. Call of duty would be better suited for you.

[Alone-2496]

@viggo-22995

For soldier, even after the hack, he can pressure on sombra and uses his abilities 1.5 sec just after (and it’s quick)
Cass, he doesn’t care if he shoots on the head

In those 1.5 sec, Sombra can deal a lot of damage to Soldier with hack, virus and gun.
I love the “if he shoots on the head”. Yeah, sure, “IF” I land headshots consistently, I’ll win… Very reliable Also “if they put in good place, Sombra gets trouble”. Same idea.

@MoreBullets-1793

Every hero has something that’s “unfair and unfun” (if that’s even a word). Doesn’t make Sombra stand out in the crowd.

Usually, every hero has that against a certain number of heroes, and not against others, depending on range, type of gun, abilities that can counter, etc… Sombra has the unfair advantage of stealth against all heroes, and she makes the game unfun for all heroes, whether tanks, dps or supports. There is no hard counter to Sombra.

@DeLos-1943

Her ability lock out is 1.5 secs. (In which you can still move and fire.

Sleep dart is a can be as long as 5 secs. In which you can do nothing. And even waking up after taking damage is a minimum of .5 secs. You are much more likely to die if you get darted than if you get hacked.

Ana uses sleep to put you out of the fight. Doesn’t mean you’re gonna be targeted by the team. She generally can’t kill you on her own. Sombra hacks you in order to kill you, and she can do that on her own. That’s why, to me at least, her CC is more dangerous than Ana’s nade. But again, as I’ve stated many times, her hack is not what irritates me. Her stealth is.

[CandyGurl-2362]

It’s not about how to win against Sombra

It’s about her horrible kit

She can disable your abilities, while she can use hers
She can disable your ultimate, while she can always use hers

She is perma invisible, while we are all visable

She can tp, while others can’t becuz of her hacks

It’s a horrible design that should not be in a game like this.
Complete stealth characters have their own type of games as it should, but those are not FPS…

[SideStep-1829]

For me Sombra is OP.
And no, totally disagree.
You can not 1vs1 Sombra, thats messed up.
Get hacked, burst and die and as a Support player, Moira is the only one that can instantly do something in that half a second when you hear that hacking sound, just warp and as Lucio pray they cant autoaim after a BooP.

Good Sombras can burst and then autoaim with that SMG.