How is Sym OP when you enable it?

Stop playing double shield every match.

Stop picking Sigma every match.

Stop feeding the enemy Sym your shields.

Pick a dive tank.

How do you Feed and throw, then say the Sym is op for taking advantage of your poor comp choices?
She’s the only thing that counters double shield and you want her nerfed?

Do you even understand your own logic?

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Don’t mind me. Just a Hammond main rolling through your turtle bunker.

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/walks into symmetra’s beam range
/gets melted
/continues to stand in beam range
/average symmetra player beam accuracy is 27 percent
/stands in point blank range
/dies
MY GOD SYMMETRA SO OP

Like okay guys, you see this?

Thanks Rein.

Don’t do that kind of crap and Symm won’t destroy your team.

Big hint: Winston still destroys Symm. She can’t kill his shield AND him if he shield dances. Not before he kills her.

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Yeah, like i’ve been getting absolutely fried I’ve since the Sym buffs but I’ve also mostly been playing Sigma so good for Sym, may she shed her stigmas.

Symmetra is another character (like Mercy, Reaper, and Brigitte before her) that excels that destroying uncoordinated teams but dies quickly to any focus.

Last night, I kept telling my team that we needed to focus Sym or we’d lose. They told me “it’s not the Sym that’s the problem”.

2 MINS LATER IN KILL FEED:

  • Symm kills Reinhardt
  • Symm kills McCree
  • Symm kills Orisa
  • Symm kills Mercy
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Big hint: not true at all.

Winstons won’t dive you if you’re around your teammates. (Which you are pretty much always, you need help with survivability, you’re playing a close range hero.) If Winston does dive you, you can walk away to force him to get out of his bubble or just face him while getting healed by your supports… (Or TP out of it is available/not sitting in spawn.)

source: my own experience

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Keep rollin, rollin, rollin, rollin (what)

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And then you’re doing… what, exactly? Oh right, nothing, unless the Winston is dumb and follows you so that you can melt him instead of moving away and going for you again when you re-engage.

The way to kill Symmetra is to dive her and get her with more damage than she can output, or to kill her from range. She has no way to protect herself other than LOS games from long range heroes.

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That’s the beauty of it isn’t it? I been using her mainly in games recently because of all the (in my view) idiotic comp of Sigma/Orisa.

I spend more time charged then I do with my normal beam most games.

To add a cherry on top everyone thinks Mei is amazing and OP (she isn’t, you have to be good with her and be able to coordinate with your team to even get close to getting value from her) so I’m seeing her more and her wall is just another object to charge my gun on.

Usually by the time a team is willing to admit you’re the real threat you already won.

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Symmetra doesn’t necessarily counter double shield. She merely feeds off it. Letting her orbs pierce again would make her counter it tho

I agree with you tho

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Oh don’t get me STARTED on this crap.

Every pre-fight is

“Can we get a Hog/Orisa? It’s really OP.”

“Can we get Reaper/Mei? It’s really OP.”

“Can we get Sigma/(other shield tank)? It’s really OP.”

No, it isn’t. The first two are good in high ranks because they know what the synergy is. They know how the composition works and how each role is supposed to do their jobs. The second is only OP because people keep wasting time trying to “break” shields instead of going around the things.

These comps aren’t going to work with the DPS Moira that refuse to heal. Or the D.Va main that’s just DPSing to see where it’ll place. Or against the Symmetra/McCree duo that’s destroying our shields and then ulting the hell out of us.

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Destroying his bubble + charging your beam? The beam is 12 meters long…

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And when he just jumps away while the rest of his team comes in and your beam charge fades?

I mean you could also just I dunno, one shot her with Doomfist. Or Hanzo. Or Widow. Or ping her in the head twice with AShe and use dynamite to destroy turret nests, or you could have Hammond go in and knock her around some, or you could have Genji jump in her face and spin around like a ballerina on crack so she can’t maintain ramp up time…

Well then he effectively wasted his engagement tools and fed your supports and you ult charge. Why would he disengage while his team is coming in?

I didn’t say he fully disengaged. I meant he jumped back to his team for a quick heal before jumping in on Symm again. I mean if you force her back she’s not going to be doing much either. You don’t always have to score a kill. Plus when he goes back in she’ll be distracted by this big monkey and her healers will be occupied by the rest of his team as well.

There are many ways to deal with Symmetra. It’s high time people had to learn how.

I mean I do like how you conveniently ignore the other things I mention that can easily deal with a Symmetra.

On open maps without tall buildings and hidden high corners, you can also use Pharah to counter Symm.

Even with Sym 2.0, there were so many times where my teammates would just refuse to focus her, because they had all internalized the mantra that Sym is a throw pick. They would ignore her, she would microwave them all.

Honestly I think that’s about half of the reason that Torb 2.0 ended up being such a strong pick for a while—it took so long for people to get out of the mindset of “Oh, it’s a Torb, lol” that they did not respect his power alley and then they did not have the faintest idea how to deal with him when they realized he was owning.

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That’s at least 6 seconds (+ some little time during jumps) of free time for you to come back when you had to back up from Winston. If your supports are around, you don’t even have a reason to back up from him. With just Mercy’s healing beam on you it would take him exactly 20 seconds to kill you. Enough time for you to destroy him and his bubble.

Yes. I’ve mained Sym since forever and one of her biggest strengths has always been that people underestimate her since she’s “just a throw pick”

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You’re acting like Winston is 1v6ing…

Why wouldn’t he have Genji or, I dunno, the rest of his team around?

The same strats apply even when his whole team is around. Pressure him as much as you can so he’s forced to back up.

I just feel like Symmetra is a really good tank buster and people don’t give her enough credit for that.