Used to be group vs group plus long queue time, now its almost instant queue and bypassing matchrigging system. Yes, I know, add to the pile of reasons why this game is garbage.
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Fun while it lasts, but you can never go back to solo queue unless you want a 10+ game loss streak with the worst team mates imaginable.
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It isn’t. Blizz doesn’t care though so we’re stuck with it. If you don’t have friends that play this game, you will lose more often.
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Yeah I agree / you will lose approximately 50% of the time due to the match maker aligning games to your skill level
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Statistically speaking the team without a stack will have the higher raw skill advantage.
This game seems multitudes more difficult to climb beyond diamond as a solo queue because you’ll always get that one toxic thrower
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Except when they are all smurfs on their new accounts/alt accounts that were created for the purpose of stomping the low Elo for the lawl.
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Hot take, you can’t punish someone for.playonf the way the game is supposed to be played.
There is Sr is for, trying to balance( that part need to be improved for sure), if the stack is cordinating and you are not, well, that’s overwatch, it’s a team game.
Imagine playing a team game with a team and been punished for that… what a concept
How do you even deny the advantage of 5 premade vs bunch strangers? How do you compare coordinating 5 people on mic vs 1-2 people on mic with different skill level with thrower and new players mixed in? Too many variables. Most games don’t allow premade to queue against solo queue for obvious reasons. Ow used to do that too until they decided to remove it to lower queue time.
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Go find and amek some friends, talk to people, you find someone that can keep up with you, add him as a friend in the game and so one, this is part of the game… you want to play a team game and don’t want to play the effort to play as a team… then deathmatch is the mode for you.
Most of theses stacks where just that, a team that just played well together then decide stop keep playing together, you can’t punish that… that’s stupid
It’s blizzards fault for allowing this to happen and allowing players to take advantage of their already bad matchrigging system by eliminating the rigging part.
You can play as group, but you should be queued against other groups. Anyone who defend this just want easy games. You can’t expect a group of strangers to work together, try go in a restaurant and see how many tables let you sit with them.
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Can’t really account for intentional throwing inside the matchmaker tho.
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When you 5 stack queue times are nearly instant you can’t even load a workshop up before you find a match. Most of the games seem to be stomps as well and when asking the enemy team there might be some duos + solo queue, but a legit 5v5 of coordinated teams is insanely rare.
With the arbitrary rank slide at the beginning of S2 - it allowed players to “smurf” with their lower ranked friends.
This is a key issue I believe. On top of the stacking, they are giving the MMR matchmaking (or is it mix of visual rank + MMR?) a hard time to make fair matches.
they allow it because a 5 stack bronze team will go against golds/plats
In fairness, any 5 stack bronze team is sus af.
yes, but that was just an example, any 5 stack will go against harder teams. the reason the 5 is assumed to be better coordinated and as such it would be unfair for solo queue players to compete with such coordination.
this is a team based game where coordinating with your team is an essencial skill in both solo que and stacking, and this reasoning goes against any logic.
I thought they stopped doing that but imo if stacks must play vs solo (they shouldn’t) then the solos should get an advantage. Or else it won’t be fair Blizz even admitted their most unbalanced matches happen in this scenario. And it’s not as much to do with better coordination as it is the fact that large stacks often have a smurf(s) playing on an alt in order to boost their friends.
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The biggest loss streak I’ve had is 3 games as a solo queuer. Not sure how people can go on such huge loss streaks, unless you’re getting tilted and not playing at your full potential.
I personally agree though, 5 stacks should only be queued against other 5 stacks. Will the queue time be high? Yes, but it isn’t fun to go against a coordinated team when your team doesn’t use coms all game.
outside of the edge case you stated, i dont see why solos should get an advantage. you are both playing a team game. and teamplay is the most powerful thing in this game. a lot of gm players play like a team, the difference is that they dont need it to be the same team over and over.
and yah it might be unbalanced, rank wise, but lets face it, this is a team game. and as such team play should be more important than i can cheese the enemies every game because they wont work together.