I really hate Brigette. The fact that she is a support blows my mind because she can literally destroy anyone. I understand that she is meta changing by countering dive but I mean come on. The fact that she can destroy a Zarya head to head is ridiculous. I know alot of people will say I’m just mad because I am a Genji main, but I have played Brigette long enough to know that Shield bash is soooooo powerful and on such a short cooldown for an ability that can stun. Sure Mccree is about the same cooldown but he doesn’t have a shield protecting him to just mosy in and stun someone with flashbang. I hate her kit because the playstyle created from it is just so stupid and I feel like she needs adjusted. Her healing is fine but I cannot stand that she can 1v3 a group and win on multiple occasions.
except that zarya wins 1v1 vs brigette 100% of the time.
except that brigette will loose 1v3 100% of the time.
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She’s not just a support. She’s a support / tank hybrid. So, think of her as an off tank with healing.
Except I’ve not seen a Zarya in my rank or close to my rank (High Gold/Low Plat MMR) beat a Brigitte if the Brigitte knows what they’re doing.
Anyone can lose a coordinated 1v3, so that’s not a really good argument in favor of how Brigitte is a support.
She has CC, she gives armor, and she heals, why is your definition of support a poor fighter?
Her healing is pretty bad and her armor is her ultimate.
When does she win 1v3? She is a good duelist but not against MULTIPLE people. There are so many threads on these horrid forums demanding nerfs for a hero who hasn’t been in comp yet, who hasn’t shown their actual viability, who hasn’t actually done anything except do well in quick play. She is a healer so she will be used as a secondary support. Not an off tank, not a DPS, a support. She is not this god tier healer so I don’t think in most line ups swapping a Lucio or a Zen out for a Brigitte doesn’t seem SUPER likely. I don’t think she’ll be a must pick for the 2% of the match where she can shield bash an ult’ing reaper.
If you think her healing is bad, I’d love to point you to her 150 HP + 75 potential armor health pack on a 6 second cooldown. I’d also love to point you to her 20m 80hp/5s AOE heal.
Not a bad healer by any regards.
Also, a “support” shouldn’t be able to 1v1 nearly the entire roster and win without much effort.
None of that happens 100% of the time. My point is I have done that to Master players as Brigette.
Finally, someone understands my point. Lol smile
Compared to other healers it’s pretty terrible. She has to be in the thick of the fray to get much healing off meanwhile other healers like Mercy and Zen can just pop a beam or Harmony Orb and heal indefinitely.
150 HP on a 6 second cooldown is effectively 25 health per second on a single target, lower than zen’s. You can add inspire, but that still only brings it to 41 per second and requires you to be actively hitting enemies. Plus, having it on a cooldown at all makes it incredibly inflexible, and means you’re likely to not be able to heal at key moments. She really isn’t a very good healer currently.
She heal and give you some armor? She helps her Co-/Main-Support to keep off those flanker? 
It’s 150 potential, not 150 + 75, if they get to max health from it the extra is converted to armor up to 75 health, it can save people but it’s pretty useless in a team fight when everyone’s taking damage and you can only help one person. It’s more useful for an ulting Genji than anyone else.
Her passive is as bad as Lucio’s without amp and she needs to do damage to even activate it so it’s really not saving anyone, it’s just there.
If I had to guess I’d say she probably has the lowest healing of all the healers in the game.
Symmetra? Moira? 90% of the roster has no problem killing her in a 1v1 if they’re not dumb enough to walk up to her in a closed space.
1v3 and win??? Maybe if it was a bronze smurf. If that’s what really happened then I can tell you for certain 1 thing was your undoing. YOU TUNNEL VISIONED HARD. No Brigitte worth their weight as a support would go into 3 enemies on their own and live. You either didn’t bother noticing her teammates backiing her up from range or (more likely) you jump into fights you aren’t prepared to take and thus, get punished.
I don’t have problem with the shield bash the problem I have is a healer having a shield and not having any downside to using it why give a healer decent offense and good defense it doesn’t make any sense as a healer should have a teammate help like a Rein or Roadhog but no she as healer can win a 1v1 against almost anyone and healer shouldn’t be able to do that
The downside to using it is that she’s not attacking while she has it up, which means she’s also not healing. Her shield also does nothing to block splash damage or attacks from slight angles. The whole point of her existing is to be a support that can peel, which she gets as a tradeoff for her lower healing output.
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Her shield can’t block certain AoE effects like Junk grenades, Pharah rockets, Earthshatter and is also easy to break if you’ve got enough brain cells to shoot it.
Yes. Compared to other healers it is pretty terrible. But It’s better than Lucio. And that’s something.
She doesn’t even have to be in the thick of things. She can just tap shift at someone that’s not protected and boom, everyone gets a free 16 HP/s.
Yeah. Sure. It’s low. But It’s enough to save nearly all of the DPS heroes.
I’m not saying she is a good healer. I’m just saying she isn’t a terrible healer.
Ah, my mistake.
Symmetra literally has to get in close range. Moira’s range is 20 meters and is poor damage at that range as well.
It’s not about “if they’re not dumb enough” but rather it’s that these heroes need to be atleast somewhat close in order to do anything.
Ana can’t. Symmetra can’t. Zenyatta can’t.
Sure, they have shields, but they don’t have actual self healing like Brigitte, Moira, and Mercy do. Especially Ana. She has to use an ability to heal herself.
Your reasoning is making less and less sense TBH.
I play a ton of zarya (gold rank).
You play against Brig the same way you would play against any other CQC hero.
You choose whether to shield off the initial bash if you are going against her and others or to just let her get that small amount of damage when in a 1v1. Then you use your barrier as a midfight stall.
Your right click is very effective against her since her shield is not at all wide.
Zarya is amazing against her.