How I would Balance Symmetra & Make her a more Well Rounded Hero

[Ranulf-1999]

@Poytheon-1466

Yes. Sym starts at 60, Zarya starts at 90. However on live, Symmetra deals 0 damage to Zarya outside of 12m where Zarya can beam her for free. With my suggestions Symmetra will be able to fight back.

They are at the same range, but Sym still has lower damage, worse scaling and less survivability. How do you think she can contest Zarya when she is literally in the same range that Zarya who has more damage AND HP that her.

Your trolling act is not funny.

@Poytheon-1466

Right, that’s the issue. You have to use an ability meant for close range to hit targets at mid range because her beam range is too short .

No its because it works much better and allows you to use corners to juke and evade incoming fire, instead of having to stay there for 4s to get what other heroes get for free with 5 times the range.

[Poytheon-1466]

@Ranulf-1999

They are at the same range, but Sym still has lower damage, worse scaling and less survivability.

Same range, yes. Lower damage, depends on Zaryas charge & if Symmetra is using her turrets as well. Less scaling, not sure what you mean by that? I’m thinking you mean Zarya 90-170dps vs. Sym 60-150dps (with my suggestion) Less survivability, yes, but that’s why Sym utilizes her turrets & TP. To pick fights when she wants, where she wants & how she wants. Sym really shouldn’t be trying to 1v1 Zarya, but at least if Zarya is pushing her she can fight back instead of praying she can hit 1 orb before she dies.

@Ranulf-1999

How do you think she can contest Zarya when she is literally in the same range that Zarya who has more damage AND HP that her.

Maybe you don’t understand what contesting means.

Currently Sym can’t contest Zarya because Zarya out ranges her.
With a 15m beam Sym can contest Zarya because she would have the same range.

Contest =/= 1v1 & win. Currently, Sym can’t do much of anything vs. Zarya. With an even beam length she could at least deter her.

@Ranulf-1999

Your trolling act is not funny.

I’m thinking you’re trolling based on your responses. And it’s not funny.

@Ranulf-1999

No its because it works much better

It works better because her beam isn’t even an option when it doesn’t reach…

@Ranulf-1999

and allows you to use corners to juke and evade incoming fire,

Okay…sure…and that wouldn’t change. I even suggested buffing the orb damage to maintain that use…

But when you can’t use corners and Zarya is W+M1 into you at least Sym would be able to fight back with considerable damage

Her orb takes 1 second to fully charge & would reach Zarya in about 0.6 seconds. So in 1.6 seconds if you get a direct hit you deal 120 damage. With my suggested changes, Sym could be dealing 150DPS. I’d rather have the latter considering there’s a good chance Zarya can dodge the orb at that range.

@Ranulf-1999

instead of having to stay there for 4s to get what other heroes get for free with 5 times the range.

It’s interesting but also sad how you use the worst case scenario in every comment. It’s like you assume you will always be level 1 charge…

Very simply as I’ve said several times, I want her beam to have a slightly longer range to make her better at mid range since her orbs are already good at close range. Not a hard concept

[Aurora-13974]

I want 250 HP and 15m beam. I think 15m beam should be standard. Zarya has 15m, Mercy has 15m, Moira has 20m, Echo has 17m. All of these heroes either have better mobility or more self defense and self sustain than Symmetra.

And 250 HP puts her in line with all other melee DPS like Mei, Doom, and Reaper. It also gives her better anti-dive potential to not get ran over which would be healthy for her and the game IMO.