I was thinking along the lines of having two tanks being the antithesis of each-other, while having their resources be directly connected. One tank for damage, one tank for healing, and while one is empty one is full/when one is being expended the other is being regenerated. When neither of the resources are being used they sit at a standstill for 3 seconds ( Same time it takes for Torb turret to disengage ) before the tanks start to slowly drift back to their original states ( Healing tank full and damage tank empty. )
Before people comment with “But people can just use healing tank on the air and gain damage resource and just dps with that.” I have already thought about that as a possibility and was thinking that the resources would have to be tied to interacting with teammates IE: In order to gain damage resource you would have to actually apply healing to a teammate who has taken damage. And yes, this would start to make the tanks imbalanced if you healed thin air and had less healing resource than you did damage resource. But this imbalance would fix itself after the 3 second disengage.
I don’t know about you all but I constantly see this as an issue in throw-away modes like qp and arcade, just thinking about this as a solution to those modes. If you have anything else to add or your own ideas of what to do to Moira shove it into this thread.
I don’t intend to change her utility in the long run, just trying to eliminate those special snowflakes who think it’s funny to pick Moira and treat her as only an off-healer/not a healer at all.
Moira is high skill floor. Just because people use her wrong in Quick Play and Arcade doesn’t even compare to a Master/Grandmaster Moira.
Diamond and lower Moira’s might not know who to use Moira correctly in terms of balance and when to use Healing Orb or Damage Orb. But Moira does indeed have a skill ceiling or else people would easily climb with her. Yet, they can’t because they use her wrong and aren’t healing their team which leads them to losing team fights.
Like I mentioned, a Master/Grandmaster Moira is nothing compared to other players you encounter in Quick Play/Arcade or lower tiers.
You are completely right, and I won’t deny that it does take a considerable amount of game knowledge to play Moira at her best, but most of the things that I believe are common sense seem to fly over people’s heads in qp, in some cases with people who out right refuse to use her as a main healer and go flank their Ana instead, only to be killed by the enemy McCree.
I want to restate that I’m not saying Moira is underpowered/overpowered. I just want some shortfixes for the people who actively refuse to heal, and use the phraise “It’s qp, shut up” or something along those lines as a defense for their ineffective playstyle. If deciding “Not do use fade to go behind everyone and solo lifesteal their 200hps while the main tanks are getting battered around by CC and damage.” is something you have to learn and not be common sense, then something is seriously wrong here.
rather than nerfing moira, make mercy fun again and you have more chance to get a support that actually focusing on heals in your team alongside that dps moira.
Yeah it is. Moira has a lot of skill floor and skill ceiling. Not many people know how to bounce her orbs or do other things. I won’t go into details but you can learn a lot just by taking the time to watch this video and improve your Moira gameplay:
One of the best guides around. Goes over nearly everything a Moira main should know.
I feel like the original discussion’s topic has switched from “How can we remove people who almost never heal as Moira willingly?” to “Is Moira balanced?” so I will remind everyone to the title of this thread. We already have too many posts about X hero being UP/OP
moira has no skillfloor, she is the easier hero to start with in the game, but your confsing skill floor and ceiling, yet even the ceiling is lower then most heros.
Out of principle, I only play DPS Moira when I get both a Hanzo +widow Instalock on my team. At that point it is clear you want to play sniper and I’m not tanking or healing for inconsistent snipers. If you want to play snipers then go play battlefield or call of duty or paladins.
You’re going a bit mad there making moira sound super complicated. Yeah there’s gonna be a huge difference between a gm moira and diamond moira but it’s nothing comparable to the difference between a gm mcree vs diamond cree.
Aren’t you also overcomplicating? Hell, only difference I notice in McCrees while ranking up is that they’re not completely stupid and die by walking infront if Rein Barriers and have some decent aim rather than being probably blind.
Bro, before you were saying Brig was the lowest skillfloor hero in the game, now you’re saying it’s Moira? Which is it? I feel like you can’t keep switching that for whatever hero you happen to have a vendetta against.
Also, Moira is balanced as is. That was the overwhelming response to your post where you suggested these changes before, she’s fine.
no it wouldnt. she’d be completely vulnerable unlike literally every other hero. and both could become empty together and she’d be useless for way longer than 3 seconds since they charge slow. you cant change her like this to stop dps moria. they’ll still do what they want. they can just not heal and wait said 3 seconds.
she does have a skill floor. if she had lock on then maybe id agree but she still needs tracking aiming positioning and a balance between healing and damage.
mercy, brig, bation, and mei are easier imo.
