This is the double edged sword with Overwatch being encouraged to swap hero. They are all mechanically different. My game sense, positioning and muscle memory from other heroes can only overlap so much. With the comp culture of QP double enforced by penalties that force everyone in a lobby, that just adds aggravation to everyone. At my level, if I’m not playing my comfort hero, I get deleted fairly quickly everytime I’m in an engagement. The whole gradual skill happens exactly like that, gradual but when you’re in a lobby full of people that are more often than not playing a hero they are good at, that is a HUGE disadvantage. If I’m expected not to be a throw, like it’s implied with everyone complaining about people saying it’s just QP, am I honestly expected to play a new hero with bots alone and expect to deal with situations that require split second judgement that I may not have the muscle memory yet to do for a new hero? I want to be able to do weekly challenges but the only DPS I have been able to do is Mei. The closest I feel comfortable with is Sombra but I’m not good enough to handle groups. SOMEONE is getting the short end of the stick, so what is the consensus supposed to be? Is QP supposed to be more relaxed to where I can brute force things at the expense of throwing for my team? Or am I just expected to play the one I can do and pray the composition isn’t too disadvantageous? There’s not enough brawly DPS that fits my play style. I started with reaper but I always got deleted between the 1st-3rd shot (Unless I was able to fade away. It’s essentially a harder to play and clunkier sombra at that point)
Then you’ll derank to a rank where people don’t know how to play any hero well - which is anywhere below diamond, arguably masters - and do fine there.
No, you’re allowed to suck at a hero in both quickplay and comp. You have to suck at first in order to improve/learn.
The other day I played genji isntead of my main in comp. Does my genji suck? Apsolutely. Do I care? No… Cuz I’m climbing contantly, cuz I’m focused on improving, idk how fast. I play for fun.
Rank is temporary skill is permanent. Nobody is expecting you to play like a t500, why put so much unnecessary pressure on yourself? If someone thinks you suck and tells you - tough luck for them, report them for being toxic and move on, doing your best.
I’m told I’m trash even when I play my main sometimes - so who cares, makes no difference.
You’re not gonna play against many (if at all) groups if you solo q.
That you progress challenges despite losing here and there? That you are improving in skill?
Are you throwing on purpose? No? Then you’re not throwing…
Why are you not relaxed in a video game you play for relaxation, are people losing money and their houses if they lose a game with you? Is the world gonna end if you lose a game? Why not relax in comp? Even some top 500 players are super casual… How good do you think top 500 Maugas will be the first week? Perfect? Nuh bruh.
There you go, a lesson! Sit behind cover and do nothing before you have fade to engage (that’s how top 500 people play anyway).
People forget that you’re allowed to do nothing and wait for cds in order to engage. It’s called: "not feeding ". You know who just engages regardless? Bots - thats who, not good players thats for sure.
In short - you learn by playing him.
You suck at first, but then you get better.
Rank is meaningless. Its literally a currency.
Why should you keep your rank when playing a hero you are still learning? Its entire fine to de-rank if you are learning a new hero. That is working as intended.
People open new accounts to practice other heroes, to not derank on “their main”
By the time they learn the new hero they could have equally deranked and climbed back up to where they were on the first account. It makes zero difference which account they played on.
Yeah, making ‘learning accounts’ is just another word for smurfing.
Alt account
The funny thing is, those accounts get placed even higher now then they should be (blizzard did this to combat smurfing)… Inflated mmr. Still stupid.
Oh we were just talking about how stupid that is.
Perfect, I got here just in time
If that’s your logic, de-ranking on a higher rank main acc is even worse, since that’s another word for throwing.
At least every new players created a new acc, and the system is fast to boost you up to where you are.
You are not throwing if you are actually learning a hero. There is a difference between starting and your rank and naturally deranking and re-ranking as you learn a new hero, and smurfing.
Reading comments on here over time, I wouldn’t be surprised if you get reported for playing, say, Brig, if you’re historically a Mercy one-trick. Some toxic people here.
it’s a throw if you know you gonna do terrible on a new hero, and your rank on that hero is way lower than your main rank. That is, only according to your logic.
It’s not throwing, you’re allowed to derank. People derank and it’s rarely on purpose. Your rank has more to do with your game sense than mechanical skill anyway - which also translates across heroes.
Like if you know not to charge in as Rein against massive poke - you’ll know not to do it on Mauga too. if you can predict ults on one hero - you’ll be able to do it on others. If you know high ground is king for solider 76 - you’ll know to take hg as sojourn too… or flank when your team engages - be it on tracer or sombra… Like - it translates
I’m here playing Tracer for 6 years and I’m still learning her.
Players under performing are not the reason you’re not climbing, so who cares? Focus on yourself.
I didn’t say it’s not allowed, just like how some people created a new acc to learn a new hero, that’s also allowed.
Both can be done intentionally and unintentionally. As long as you’re not purposefully throw or smurf, but just go with the flow.
With the comp rules in QP I would suggest getting a practiser account. Sad isnt
Press the enter key every once in a while. Chisel that wall of text into something more palatable
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Quickplay should be more relaxed, you are not throwing, you are trying your best at a hero you are not yet familiar with.
The likelyhood of you winning a game on a single hero is slim anyways, especially on tank and especially in quickplay.
Whenever i want to play wrecking ball, dva, doomfist or winston or rein or junkerqueen or rammatra or orisa and now maybe mauga, in quickplay i expect to be hardcountered within 2 teamfights.
Because for some reason the immediate counterswapping is worse in quickplay.
I roll out on rein, hit 2 firestrikes on a enemy dps who stands still and he will immediately go bastion. While he was playing hanzo, a hero who also does well against rein. When i kill the second dps in the next fight, he will go mei. And when I solo shattered the rammatra as he uses ult after my shield broke he will go orisa.
Go practice your heroes. Don’t care about people telling you to swap heroes and such. Its quickplay, not competative. They lose the game maybe, but not rank or whatever. The only way to improve is to practice. Just make sure that your time invested to practice is worthwhile. Aka if you get deleted because you are getting countered by 4 heroes and can’t even do anything usefull in terms of practicing then swap. If your getting somewhere or somewhat meaningful practice in while playing against 3 counters keep on at it.
Aka don’t play respawn simulator, that ain’t practice.