Both of them seem so bad at the moment. Despite nerfs to Anti-Dive characters, Dive has seen no resurgence what so ever. Bunker seems to run rampant on every map and that’s a problem. Winston seems to be out classed by Orisa in situations where she really shouldn’t based on the map geometry.
Perhaps we could give them tiny buffs to make them get in line with the other tanks? Especially now that we don’t have to worry about multitank line ups, our tank mains could really use some love.
D.Va:
- DM cooldown reduced to 1.5 seconds. Maximum duration increased by 1 second.
- Head hitbox reduced by 10% to match her model.
- Boosters: Flight duration increased to 4 seconds. movement speed increased to 15 m/s.
- Boop damage increased back to 30.
- D.Va is stun immune while using her micro missiles.
- DM now recharges at a rate of 20% (normally 12.5%) per second while micro missiles are available (not on cooldown)
Winston:
- Primal Rage HP increased to 1500. Winston is now stun immune during his ultimate. Swing range increased to 5 m. Resets all cooldowns and can be canceled early using the Q button after 2 seconds.
- Tesla gun now applies an additional 5 dps damage over time that starts as soon as the first tick of damage is applied until 5 seconds after the last tick of damage using the tesla gun. It ignores armor.
- Bubble health increased to 750.
- Winston’s HP increased to 600, 500 health and 100 armor.
- Secondary attack: places a 100 HP bubble on himself and the most nearby ally that lasts for 2 seconds. It makes the target stun resistant and increases movement speed by 20% while active. If destroyed early it will deal 60 damage in a 5 m radius area. Cooldown: 15 seconds
- Leap cooldown reduced to 5 seconds.
- New passive: Natural regrowth - Winston receives 20% more healing per second from healing abilities that deal 50 healing per seconds or less. For example: Mercy’s primary fire or Zen’s orb of harmony
What do you guys think? Let’s show our tank mains that we appreciate their hard work protecting us and keeping us alive. 
11 Likes
I dont really feel like the dive tanks need buffs. what needs to happen is that the dive supports are bad, and need buffs
The reason dive sucks right now is that the dive support (Mercy) cannot keep both winston and D.va alive because of how much damage they take. and if the enemy team has an ana then your mercy is going to get countered by the ana making it even HARDER to keep the tanks alive
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I’m a Winston main. They should never change him again.
They should nerf a bunch of stuff tho
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A buff to D.Va… I think you mean nerf /s
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Dm is unhealthy for the game, keep it weak.
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Honestly, this is kind of my standpoint. I feel like Winston is one of the most balanced heroes, and he’s just a victim of everything else around him being ridiculous. It’s the same problem with Ashe. Ashe isn’t under powered, Ashe is just balanced and surrounded by a bunch of crap that’s bonkers.
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I’m a Winston main too and I respectfully disagree. I prefer to play Hammond nowadays because he is better in every aspect and can stand his ground against the powercreep.
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Winston is so incredibly balanced that hero’s need to be balanced around him. He is literally the poster boy of balance IMO
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A lot of this seems unneeded.
Like more Boosters duration, stun immunity and faster DM recharge with MM are totally not needed. And old Boosters damage was 25, not 30.
As for Winston, I don’t know, he’s the kind of heroes that will just become meta with no changes done to him. I think reverting the boop changes they did a while ago would help him a lot.
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Ashe is like the worst hero in the game
Wait.
I’m all for my fav tanks to be buffed, but give it more time…
Would rather wait for Sigma to hit live, the balancing on him and the others as he releases too, then we’ll see for the other tanks.
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A little survavibility would be better … being vaporized in 0.5 sec is not what a tank should be imho.
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Oh boy i would absolutly destroy the whole enemy-team with these Winston-changes 
But yeah, Winston and DVa need something, and it is not just because they are not Meta.(Yeah, i know, in OWL they are still Meta)
I am excited to see how Sigma will change the tank-lineup. Maybe he will push Winston and DVa even more down, since he teams up with Zarya.
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This would discourage current orisa hog metas. Im down for that
Please give the monkey some justice.
He just melts. 
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When DM eats an ult = unhealthy for the game
When a barrier blocks an entire ult = totally acceptable in Barrierwatch
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The only buff I can approve for Monkey is a shield CD buff to 10 sec, everything else should stay at relative strength. Having his shield a little faster allows him to dive at full strength more frequently. It wouldnt even be an issue if they counterbalanced the buff with a trade in shield HP to 500. It’s mostly needed to bait cooldowns and buy time to leap out.
For D.va, 1.5m DM cooldown would be enough imo. They butchered it pretty badly with all the nerfs and can afford to partially revert one of the changes.
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The Baguette rework is already a buff to dive heroes such as Winston or D.Va. The burst heal, constant armor and CC pretty much deleted Winston. His kit is fine, it’s just that Blizzard went overkill with Baguette. Honestly I don’t think his kit should ever be changed. Any buffs could easily make him op af and we don’t need any more characters like that. Other characters just need to be brought in line, that’s all.
As for D.Va she’s still fine even after the fall of dive. Her versatility allows her to be useful in many situations so the addition of Baguette didn’t hurt her quite as much as it did Winston. She was bad for a brief period of time when gravdragon meta was running wild, but once that died she was fine again.
Sure about what? The burst heal is referring to live Baguette, not ptr.