I think a majority of people would agree that Zen needs something to help him.
There’s always reversing his discord orb nerf but what if there was something else as well?
What is we gave Zen a passive? (He’s one of the heroes that do not have any passives)
Here’s one I thought of
Orb Flow- By pressing the reload button with full ammo, Zen will encircle himself with orbs for a short period of time. If they come into contact with an enemy, Zen will receive a small amount of healing and dealing a small amount of damage to the person within his range.
Something along those lines.
Do you guys have any ideas for a passive/ new ability to help Zen compete?
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How about this:
Meditation Zenyatta is immune to abilities based on the ground such as earthshatter and Junkrat’s trap.
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Zen passively spams his “Death is whimsical today,” line. Doing so slowly heals nearby teammates.
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his passive should just pump monster energy drink into your bloodstream irl so you are snappy enough to respond to the 6 tracers on the enemy team
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Been calling for a Zen new passive (or ability) for a long time. I will give him a passive that make him golden for 1 second (inmune in the same way as he does during the ultimate) upon receiving lethal damage. This passive got a high cooldown (30 seconds or so, akin to mercy resurrection)
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"You are your own worst enemy."
Discord makes allies of the enemy discorded take 30% friendly fire damage. Stuns do not apply and a damage cap is 50 a second for each teammate to prevent throwers saying “I am the spy!”
Tbh, it fits the definition “Discord”.
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Interesting idea, and it would be hilarious to watch, but I think it would create too much salt! 
I don’t think Zen needs major changes, just small buff(s).
maybe he heals himself whenever he heals someone? put the passive on a cooldown like brigs. that + shield healing might make him op though… 
My thoughs are give him one or maybe a combo of some of these:
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while using his ult the enemy team in range of it are all discorded as well (might be to powerful of a buff)
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His heal target puts off a small 3 maybe 4 foot range aeo heal but that only heals for 15 hp per sec (maybe more or less based on testing) along with this make his discord do similarly acting as a small (maybe smaller) eoe effect that dos maybe 10% debuff on the other targets)
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He floats so he cant fall off cliffs/pitts/in water
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Can clone himself 2 times. Clones do no damage/healing only have 40 (maybe 50) hp. They look shoot like zen but move in difrent directions. Clones only last 10 sec with a 30 sec cool down. If they are not killed they return and can over buff zens sheilding by the amount of their remaining health. (this would provide zen a get away if dived and a self heal of sorts)
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Discord decreases the discorded enemys damage out-put for the same %.
Those would be my ideas.
It might stop Zen mains from panic ulting themselves… maybe… probably not.
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Maybe Zen could discord or heal multiple players at once if they’re all in his line of sight (adjusted heal and discord)?
I doubt it. I’ve played enough Zen and he was a hero you could pick in any situation for too long. He’s still not the worst support and he’d instantly improve if tanks like Rein/Zarya weren’t a good pick in almost all situations as well.
you guys do know that zen has a passive? it’s called shield health, it regens when he’s not taking damage.
sure it’s not much to write home about and is sometimes a considerable weakness to him, but it’s still a form of passive.
in any case, i doubt they will give zen something in this point in time.
how many times do i need to say this:
immortality shouldnt exist on anything but an ult.
Zen has been seen as the most balanced support for the longest time (not saying he doesnt need a bit of love).
He has had his ult immortality since 4ever and its fine as it is only that thing.
immortality during mass rez? problematic. (but it was problematic in that it effected others and you had no way to do anything but let it happen)
i.field? problematic.
nothing outside an ultimate should EVER be immortal.
throguh it you negate every lethal skill in the game w/o any way to get around it.
thats the issue with immortality. (ifield is destroyable, but then again you can make it LoS/protected and thus no way to do anything to it)
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I just strongly disagree, i think something having 2 lifes is a very fun mechanic to play around, flankers just got to think around it when choosing how to proceed, Dva’s passive (and even other things like Tracer regresion or Mei block of ice) prove the concept of surviving lethal damage work when correctly applied
Passive: “Intense Focus”
When Holding Secondary, gain the effects of Fortify that last the duration of the “Charging up” animation. Once released, the effects immediately end.
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That’s just universal for shields (like sym). I’m refereeing to passives individual to each hero such as Rein’s Steadfast or Sombra’s opportunist.
Just let him fly. Problem solved.
Totally not overpowered.
No.