How about a Tab menu?

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Would be nice to get a tab menu that shows all the team stats mid match. If I’m out-dpsing the genji using zarya because he’s trying to fight the enemy Symettra the whole map I want the stats to be visible to show who the problem is.

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2 years ago blizz stated they didn’t want that because it creates toxicity. which honestly, it does.

ana shouting at mercy why she has gold healing is already happening

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But people will always be toxic if they want to. No matter if stats are there or not. So just give us the stats :slight_smile:

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Medal sistem is far more toxic than any other scoreboard system I’ve even seen, and I’ve played countless multiplayer shooters and mobas. This is a team coordinated game, wanting to know how my teammates did is just natural. But since we don’t have that in Overwatch, people fight over medals and lie to each other about their stats.

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Zarya can easily get gold damage if played by someone skilled, you being able to out dps a genji isn’t anything noteworthy in that regard.

People who ask for a scoreboard are only asking for it so they can tell the DPS/Support/Tanks that they aren’t doing their job properly. It is inherently toxic and I can see why Blizzard haven’t implemented it.

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I agree that having gold damage as Zarya isn’t anything noteworthy.
I disagree that having stats is toxic. People will be toxic anyways, with stats or without stats. Remove toxic people then, if you don’t want them in the game, but give us the stats.

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My example was a random one, take it with a grain of salt. There’s any number of times though when it’s clear that someone’s pick isn’t working and they should swap and the stats would show that.

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Nah, I agree that the more stats there are in-game, the more toxic these people who already are toxic can get. If all these arguments like “I carried the game because I have gold eliminations” weren’t enough already. It really seems to me that for some players getting more medals is the priority, way more important than actually participating in coordinated pushes or defences.

Teamplay ability and usefulness isn’t measurable by stats. The amount of damage dealt doesn’t show the amount of opportunities the said DPS player had for important strikes instead of just shooting randomly to increase those sweet numbers. The amount of healing done doesn’t show the amount of damage the enemy team sunk in your team’s barriers instead of your teammates directy. The amount of eliminations doesn’t show anything at all, because all you need is to poke someone who will die soon anyway. Basically every number on the stats page is not only dependant on a player’s personal performance, but also on the team coordination and the enemy team performance. The fact that you outdamage a DPS hero while playing a Tank hero can also mean that you’re not doing your job and instead of protecting, you’re going all out to deal damage. But who can tell? Everything changes in dependence of the situational factors that vary for every single game.

Like I’ve mentioned, I’d actually love Blizzard to delete the medals altogether. Seems to me a completely unnecessary feature to give these more toxic players another leverage method.

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sure, but it justifies the toxic people. what’s worse than someone toxic? someone toxic who thinks or knows they’re right.

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but it doesn’t matter. it’s important to know how you did. what does it matter if the dva or the soldier are effing it up?

all it does is give you targets to point fingers at and be a dick to them

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So a toxic player will look at the stat and say “you are Fing trash why are you in this rank you Fing boosted MF”. There are some dissections about removing the gold models and show them at the end which I can see benefits and issues with it. However, your proposal is a call to rise toxic behavior in OW.

So the way that toxic game begin is when one of your tanks compline about having gold damage even thou your dps killed the healers in before they can heal. Or your hog has gold healing while feeding the whole game. The stats will give those people more room to be toxic by looking at someone’s stat and not understanding how that hero works.

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Duh it creates toxicity because if you aren’t playing your hero correctly or not doing anything then hell yeah im going to call you at. It is totally justified because there is proof you aren’t doing anything to help.

The stat sheet creates toxicity because you get called out it’s called criticism and if there is proof then it’s not toxic.

The medal system creates toxicity so much more and for the wrong reason because you cilould have a Moria with gold everything and they think they are doing everything when in reality they are playing her wrong.

Also with the medals you have no idea who is doing bad or not so then you just call out the person who is playing the hero you don’t like.

I play a lot of sombra and I’ll have gold kills, and objective time but we may lose the first point and then I’ll get yelled at because I’m playing sombra. There needs to be proof of people faults.

If you don’t want to be called out for your bad play then change it or leave the game simple as that it’s like any job. You aren’t doing your job then you get critiqued. Welcome to the world