Bring back 2CP, all you had to do is created a second spawn point for defense that’s a bit farther from first point, like 20 meters farther
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Nah thats not a hot take, i still havent met anyone who said he likes flashpoint.
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Anyone feel like instead of adding new modes they should be adding new maps?
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Yeah Flashpoint is absolute garbage. I didn’t think they could do worse than Push but they managed it
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Yes just give me 2-3 good modes and many maps. I dont need 10 modes where i hate 60% of them. If i want different modes i play arcade when i play qp i want simple modes that mainly focus on fighting.
I feel like they desperately wanna be like Fortnite and thats why they constantly change everything the forced controlled meta, the constant reworks the new modes. It feels like they have no confidence in their own game so they constantly need to change things up so it doesnt get “stale” and people keep being interested.
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Tons of people have been asking for the ability to choose which game mode to queue up for since OW1 beta. Even TF2 has that feature
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I feel like flashpoint should be in the arcade, and it should be 10v10 
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I feel like in arcade and 6v6 with 2 tanks would be great for it. You could make it so that there are 2 points simultaneously active so you need to split into 2 groups with 3 players. Which could make it a fun and unique mode.
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Give ‘em both to me.
I don’t outright hate Flashpoint, but it certainly has its problems and poor coordination is even more punishing than it was with 2CP. And ngl, with how they hyped it up, I was expecting a much bigger change of pace than it actually is.
But yes, Flashpoint aside, trashing 2CP was wholly unnecessary. The issues with it were entirely fixable and (although I personally adore Push) the new modes are currently in no way polished enough to justify themselves as replacements.
The funny part is they actually fixed 2CP’s issues when they removed a tank. Double shield was always the problem with it
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The problem wasn’t the spawn.
The problem was the camping. If the defender leave the point, they take the risk of ninja-cap. If they don’t leave the point, they get showered and have to wait ages without moving.
Also, there was a 2CP Meta. Symm/Torb/Mei were much more powerful as defender than attacker i.e… So players wouldn’t play the heroes they want but would stick to the meta.
There were also dumb level design. Horizon sucks both visually and gameplay-wise. Anubis had that straight bridge… How fun was that ?
Flashpoint suits better OW2 design as symmetrical designs allow more team diversity.
2CP was a TF2 ripoff but devs didn’t really understand why it worked in TF2 but wouldn’t work in OW (number of players and class versatility).
I’m glad they removed 2CP to get their own gamedesign. I just regret we lost the biomes. I liked Paris or Hanamura visual design and I hope they gonna return somehow.
I like flashpoint. There you go.
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instead of new maps or modes, a new dev team instead
2CP is better than pretty much everything.
There are some people who will claim they like garbage all the time, I bet someone in this thread literally said they like flashpoint even though its factually just a garbage mode, if not the absolute worst they’ve put out. I can’t tell if push or flashpoint is the worst running simulator, to me both are equally bad.
2CP needs to come back.
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I’ve always liked 2CP. The maps were awesome. Flashpoint, however, is just boring and I’m never excited to play it, sorry devs.
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Anything would be better than Flashpoint.
Nah Flashpoint and Push are better than 2CP. Don’t get me wrong, I like 2CP maps because of course nostalgia and everything, but in term of gameplay, Push and Flashpoint are way better, you need a good coordination with your team. Ofc you are not going to enjoy it if you play alone or with a friend, on qp, with a dps Moira for exemple. You need a lot of teamplay to know when attacking and back if you miss one player. Just more teamplay unlike 2CP where it was just frustrating to attack or to defend.
The only problem with Push, is that if it’s one sided, the game goes really quick. But I already won a lot of Push were the enemy team was 1m away from our spawn, same for Flashpoint when they had 2 points and we came back. Unlike 2CP when you need to wait between rounds.
I like Flashpoint with friends. Randoms using low mobility heroes makes it awful.
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