Hold up! what is this?

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This change has been on live for almost a month now and he still does less damage overall than any dps.

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Remember kids, powercreep doesnā€™t exist, apparently.

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One is a Support. One is a Dps. Unless itā€™s Quick Play Classic, why does this matter? You can only choose one role. Itā€™s not like someone is gonna tell you to switch off Soldier and play Baps. I really donā€™t see the point in comparing the two. Itā€™s as annoying as when Zarya and Sym get beam comparisons. Theyā€™re different roles! I mean, show the video where Soldier is ALSO firing his rockets into the barrier while Baps is ALSO healing his teammates. See who breaks the barrier faster then. Oh, no vids like that, huh? Ridiculous comparison otherwise :roll_eyes:

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i mean the shields nerfs

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Okay but Soldierā€™s damage output was purposefully hindered by the non-use of helix rockets, which Solider requires to be good.

Heā€™s never had great dps on just primary fire alone.

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200 is higher then every dps with their primary alone.
the issue is prolly the reload, i havent dont the math but its prollt just that.
the more heroes have been added the less reloading weā€™ve had.

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Reload and spread, Iā€™d imagine.

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Great, now a team can have TWO Soldiers firing at a barrier at the same time.

Itā€™s like people forget heroes are to be played as a team WITH each other.

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now we can have even more damage with reliable healing

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Considering you have people on this forum demanding healing be regulated because its just TOO good, Iā€™d say heā€™s not the only one overestimating healing.

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Big difference between bapt and soldier :

  • Soldier needs his smaller clip size to be kept in check in terms of sustained dps and pressure applied.
  • Baptiste clip size doesnā€™t matter much as youā€™ll very rarely run out of primary fire rounds.

Also, Imo this kind of situation isnā€™t a problem anymore as there are specific slots for each role.
You canā€™t decide to run Baptiste in a dps slot, and if you decide to play dps Baptiste youā€™ll be down a support.

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bro you know that baptiste can primary fire at max speed, and shoot a healing burst between every shot keeping his team up?

you do know that right?

as in he could be breaking shield and keep his team up just fine.

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the issue is, you can run 3 dps and even 4 with some tanks, which is kind of the point of 222

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If shield doesnt blow up within 3 seconds, then damage is weak.

15 seconds of straight shield spam? Id rather not spam at all

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Do consider that Baptiste has 2 fairly powerful abilities that allow him to forgo his healing duties while he is DPSing

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Think of all the healing Bap couldā€™ve been doing in that amount of time.

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he also can heal between dps shots

this applies to u to

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Soldier isnā€™t weak. He just needs support to be stronger.

The current meme is Baptiste:76 as a foolish claim that Baptiste is stronger and more versatile than soldier. The irony is that the two heroes combine better than pharmercy, but nobody is smart enough to actually run it because other heroes excel at different things while soldier is well rounded.

Apparently, well-rounded equals trash. Just look at how some players view Asheā€¦

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If only he could press 1 button to do so while also DPSing - oh, he does! REGENERATIVE BURST

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If a Bap is skilled enough to be able to reliably do that, then power to them I suppose. Seems too impractical and situational in my opinion to be a good argument though.

30 heals per second for 5 seconds. It took ~15 seconds to take down the shield.