You think there’s no way to keep her from being terrible without having permastealth?
Btw, you’r very reasonable person… I’m not trying to ego-debate you here… just making sure to clarify that, so you know my tone of voice isn’t misread… I fully respect your thoughts.
What I’m saying is that there is obviously a line drawn in the sand somewhere in terms of what becomes ridiculous and what doesn’t. Example, a hero could be designed that doesn’t even have to leave spawn. (this is just me trying to come up with an extreme example of ridiculousness). This hero would not actually have to interact with the other players, but would build an ult like every other hero. Once the ult builds, they would one-touch Q and kill all 5 enemy players, Nuked.
Can we agree, that would be ridiculous?
Now, if you are in spawn at the time of the Nuke, you are not killed. It could be overcome. And more importantly, which enough data and precise calculation, the speed at which that ult builds as this hero sits in spawn could be perfected so that it’s actually technically “balanced”.
But balance is not everything… because ridiculousness enters the picture at some point, for lack of a better word.
My point is, there is a line in the sand somewhere that each person draws in terms of what is “fun” and what is just ridiculous.
In my opinion, permastealth is just ridiculous. It’s HONESTLY, I can’t emphasize this enough, I’m being HONEST when I say that it’s HONESTLY not because I simply think it’s “hard” to deal with, or that I am not “good enough” to deal with it. I can deal with it. I promise you, I can… I played OW2 yesterday for like 13 hours, I faced Sombra’s in probably over half of my matches… Sure, she kills me sometimes, but I’d say the average Sombra at this point usually targets me early and starts to lean toward the idea of targeting someone else instead, because I tend to deter them most of the time after an encounter or two.
But, in my opinion, not being able to see a hero at all (until they find the perfect time to blindside you) is over that line of ridiculousness… I mean, if she only had 10s of stealth to position herself, it’d be different. But the fact that she is able to just roam the map freely without having to worry at all about the very fundamental principle of being “seen” at all, just seems “ridiculous”… because there isn’t another word that captures what I’m actually trying to say here better than that word.
I may or may not have two accounts that I play OW on. And one of those accounts may be higher ranked than the other.
And so other thing you have to realize is this.
In the lower ranks, oh my god man, the number of pure trolls just skyrockets. Yes, they are in every rank, NO doubt. But in the lower ranks, and by lower, I mean Plat and down, the number just skyrockets.
And Sombra is just an absolute GODSEND to these people. They don’t care about playing the game. They care solely about picking a target and trying to piss that target off. That’s it. Ruin someone’s day. Spark a reaction. Make people mad.
Personally, I don’t think the devs should give players like this such a blatantly PERFECT tool like permastealth to use to so EASILY spend the whole day trolling other people that are just trying to play the game and have fun.