High rank is just cheaters. If you are lower rank just enjoy the game

Children and Man-Children, I bring truth to your delusion. This is a meaningless arcade shooter with very low strategy AT ALL LEVELS INSIDE THE CLIENT.

Because of the soft aim assist/auto skill/wallhack cheats that are 100% undetected and have been for years, the cheaters rise to the top. They also get stuck in the middle. And they pop up randomly in low ranks, you call them smurfs.

High rank is people watching through walls and shooting in your general direction as their aim is assisted for them. They never have to learn strategy beyond the very basics.

If a team does not do well within 30 seconds, the team will stop trying and blame players or comp. Calling for swaps as you walk in 2v6 in a constant stream of nerd tears.

If a cheater is cleaning up your team, you can’t call them out for what they are, a cheater, without a huge discussion about hacks in this game. Players just dont understand how prevalent cheats are.

If you can google “overwatch aimbot” and find a valid one, buy it, use it, all within 5 minutes and have ZERO risk of being caught unless YOU MESS UP, this destroys the game.

When the most popular hack with over 150k views on it’s sale thread has only been detected once a year ago, you are not getting rid of cheaters. Hack = $200 a month, new account $15 black market. Even if they slip up they just get recycled into low rank and become “smurfs”. The amount of hackers never decreases.

The amount of cheaters only increases as time goes on. I reach ranked 80 in Open Q and GM in role Q because I learned to play around cheaters, and it’s not fun. It’s unrewarding, full of toxicity and delusion by those around you, and it’s like playing vs the same player every game. It’s literally player VS AI.

So please, just have fun, dont try to rank up, understand that rank is absolutely worthless and meaningless and stop picking fights with the friends you make along the way.

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This is every online game ever and most of streaming and video game world records. It is interesting that people still believe in this stuff though. Of course there are many really good people that actually practice, but it all becomes meaningless when so many people profit off cheating.

The only thing I would change in this post is the part where you sort of tell people to google what the problem is. I would remove that, only because it risks this thread being shut down.

you can buy a decent hack in China with less than half this price lol. part of reason why ow is already dead there

What bothers me is people will pay that much at all for hacks on a game that most people don’t seem to consider doing very well…

Why do it in OW, why not make it worth while and do it in another, actual FPS game?

Then again, a cheater isn’t exactly the epitome of sensible.

There needs to be some kind of push on the communities that produce and enable this behavior but how?

Perceived seriousness of the game due to esports and competitive mode. Remove those and the amount of cheaters drops significantly.

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As someone who used to use and even make my own cheats, it’s fun. For a little bit.

My experience with people cheating years ago was much different, we didn’t do it to hurt others gameplay (at least not too severely or for too long), but as adventurous fun.

But now that gaming has become a lifestyle and not a hobby, these new cheaters are cheating for empty validation. They are long term cheating for fake internet medals and empty recognition. It hurts them just as much as others.

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Well, and money. It is incredibly profitable to win tournaments and also to get people to donate money. There are huge financial benefits to cheating and zero downsides.

It also used to be a fairly big thing in some countries like China. When OW was at it’s height there was countless stuff about how people’s rank in Overwatch determined their social standing.

It made you top dog so to speak, let you get dates with girls and praise from your peers at school. Gaming is taken very seriously in parts of Asia. Where net cafe’s and such are far more common.

Though I will say cheating isn’t only at the higher ranks. Tons of people cheat in lower ranks as well because it’s “Fun” to destroy people in bronze or gold with wall hacks or aim bots. Not to mention it takes very little to get accounts with such low ranks, and given you can buy copies of OW on sale for $5 or less nearly free to do so.

There is also if your good enough at faking it, tons of online streamers and such make careers off being good at the game while secretly cheating. Every once in a while such a scandal comes out.

yep its always this way especially into the games life cycle. the best time of a game is like the 1st year before everyone creates cheats/hacks for it. if you dont want to play with cheaters at all its best to just play single player games :stuck_out_tongue:

i mean if it bothers you that much

People have also been cheating at single player games for world record recognition since video games began.

yea true but your not competing against anyone, i dont think artificial intelligence cares… or does it O.O

speed runners and billy mitchell the donkey kong guy

Video game culture these days is just so tiresome. You try and talk to people about a single player game and the discussion devolves into them mentioning “streamer x” who did some amazing thing rather than their personal experience with it. It feels inescapable.

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im not gonna get into that really. how “streamers” have ruined gaming… i mean i can see some points to that arguement but no one is forcing you to watch streamers…

people have ruined gaming by paying money for preorders, microtransactions, and early access. i think the video game market needs a crash honestly or a reset

I’ll come clean man

I used to maphack in brood war (like, back in '99)

Ive got a hack program i use in TF2, but i use it to dunk on other hackers or the dredded sniper bots, i just sit in lobbys vibing untill one comes on then i keep them in spawn untill they leave

super fun x-D, whats even better is when they call me out for cheating asking for my team to kick me

No its not. You see a real cheater MAYBE 1 in 5 to 1 in 7 games. Most of the time people are just better at predicting where you will be because we have all faced people doing the same things multiple times.

As for them getting banned, they ALWAYS get banned its just a matter of when. They adapt their anti cheat do a massive ban wave then the cheaters come up with a new work around and the cycle repeats. You will never catch everyone ever and its not feasible to imagine you will.

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Lol keep believing that…

you’re wrong tho…

Esports and Twitch have ruined gaming.

I look at Esports as a massive advertising scheme and the players are just the actors. Young people think if they become good at the game, they can be actors too. It’s not going to happen, there is little path for it to happen, even if you find the path AND have the skill AND the ability to work with teammates, it probably STILL WONT HAPPEN. It’s one of the dumbest lifegoals to have and it’s socially criminal to promote this to children.

Twitch has created the lifestyle. Often, and early, it was adults catering to children. Grown adults dumbing down their personas to capture a larger audience who then grow up with streamer idols. Their idols are grown adults acting stupid.

Add to this the SJW moderation that removes all freedom of speech in Twitch and games like Overwatch, what you end up happening is victim empowerment. This is where playing the victim, and purposely creating situations where you aggressively attack then play the victim, has become a power move.

Dumb behavior is the normal. Attacking teammates is normal. You are not allowed to stand up for yourself or others or else the empowered victims will report and you will get banned.

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