Iâm sorry whatâs your point? In a game where it is team orientated⌠where communication is king in high levels of play⌠I THINK PEOPLE WHO GROUP UP SHOULD BE REWARDED TO PLAY ANYONEâŚnot just other stacks⌠THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CRUSH SOLO QUEâŚ
Cause what is your point here⌠What are solo que players trying to get? They want to play the game without communicating? They want to solo carry on whoever their choice of character is? Would this person who hypothetically does this, wouldnât they get more pleasure out of beating a stack?
Look, Iâve played games that do work that way. What you get is a game that canât functionally be played solo. And most OW players play solo. Theyâre not going to group up, theyâre going to find a different game. I know I would.
We DO NOT WANT TO GROUP UP. Stop trying to make us! But really, you donât want us to group. You want freelo from beating up on solos.
It wouldnât mean you were better, you know. Your SR would just be inaccurate.
NO. I want to strategize. I want to use all the other rolls and experiment with compositions. I want to combo alts⌠I want to play the game as they do in high levels of play. SOLO QUE is for the head clickers. Itâs for DEATH MATCHERS. OkayâŚyou donât want to group upâŚcool. And I feelâŚIN A TEAM GAMEâŚyou should be crushed⌠You should have a more difficult time. The matches should surely still have EVEN SR⌠but the advantage should go to the people who play as a team in a TEAM GAME!!!
Then do it! The only downside is you face teams of people doing the same thing as you. Thatâs more âhigh level playâ anyway!
Look, it would make the game unplayable for solos. And solos are most of the playerbase. This would kill the game dead.
And what you want is unsportsmanlike. You want your opponents to be disadvantaged to you. Itâs not a good look.
Seriously, group or lose is why I totally quit Destiny 2 pvp, particularly gambit. You couldnât win if you didnât stack, you almost couldnât lose if you did. And that was with people I actually liked⌠I just didnât have the time to wrangle teammates every time I wanted a quick round. It meant every session was a multi hour commitment where you got nothing done that day.
I disagree with you. I feel you are speaking for people, by saying you would all abandon the game. Tell me? Why donât you want to group up? Why donât you want to play with a team you can communicate with?
I do think itâs great to play against other stacksâŚIt is hardâŚsome groups are amazing⌠I donât think my SR should always be punished for having faced a superior group⌠I believe I should be able to punish solo querâs SR for possible not communicating with their teamâŚand or possibly throwingâŚ
Side Note: I would like to knowâŚwhat is the % of a 6 or 5 stack throwing the game? In comparison to a solo QUEr?
I donât have time. It takes time to wrangle a real team and get them all grouped up and into a game, and then you want to play for hours to maximize your investment. I donât usually want to commit to 3+ hour playtimes.
It homogenizes the game. Yesterday I played as Ashe, Ana, Hanzo, Lucio, Brigitte, Orisa, Hammond, and Sombra. There is no way I would have done that on a team, it would have just been Ana every time.
There is always âthat guyâ who wants to play something he is bad at or is just a nonviable hero. I donât want to be stapled to âthat guyâ. I used to play with friends more and one of them decided he wanted to be a silver Widow and Sombra main⌠it was just impossible to win games.
It gets you places you shouldnât be. If you group, you can be carried. You can get your SR to places where you donât belong and then lose horribly when you stop grouping or find a new group.
I donât always want to communicate or wear a headset. Families hate the headset.
You canât play in a stack and run off for 5 minutes to go do laundry, etc.
Stacking breaks the matchmaker and gets you more hilarious stomps and really weird matches where you have like 5 golds against 3 silvers, a bronze, and a masters player.
Donât have time⌠What? You are playingâŚyou are using your time⌠If you stack up with some people you like, if thatâs 3 or 6 people⌠You should not be worried about always having to face a stacked team. You should be able to play all solo QUErs with = SR.
You can pick a position where there are 3-6 options for characters⌠or play SOLO QUE and do as you were doing. Iâm not saying you would not face other teams with solo QUErsâŚBut you should have to face stacks!
okayâŚso donât play with this friend⌠what is this point even? PLAY WITH PEOPLE YOU CAN GET WINS WITHâŚ
THIS IS ABSURD. YOU WIN AS A TEAM, sure some teams have more talented playersâŚbut you WIN AS A TEAM!!!. YOU CAN BE CARRIED IN SOLO QUE and in TEAM PLAY.
So go play QP. lol idk. use type. You donât need a headset to communicate.
yeahâŚokay⌠what?
NO. Thatâs actually not possibleâŚthere are rules to SR a bronze cannot group up with a MASTER in COMP. The SR grouping rulesâŚmake it possible so no que can start with people not within the acceptable amount skill level points.
COMP IS FOR PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THEIR SR⌠thatâs why it is more difficult⌠cause people play to WIN. The game is structured to benefit those who play as a team. It is why there is a support classâŚa tank class. Honestly⌠as old and cliche as it sounds⌠play another mode or communicate with your team.
What are we all going on about? This is too much to read. I guess I donât care but the little amount it took to write this. Obviuosly I would never read all of thisâŚ
Iâve climbed SR without using VC. So, you personally donât need it. An Imaginary and Non-Important Number called SR doesnât mean anything. I just treat Competitive as only an fun game mode. No one will know and really canât stop me either.
@justkiilmeplâŚwhy even reply then⌠get out of here.
@positiveâŚThatâs actually not true. The higher you go the more communication is necessary. The more positioning is keen and the more understanding of the game is found. People with a pretty good understanding of the game can be hard stuck in lower ranks. SR does mean something⌠If you want to have fun and donât care about SR then go play QP.
It takes time to find a team. Needing to do it locks out shorter sessions. I can have good games as a solo in 45 min. I couldnât have good games as a group, and then Iâd be a jerk for leaving so early in.
Still, judging by my playtime, I would be stuck in support. So I would probably be playing Ana 24/7 or maybe Zenyatta and Lucio. No Ashe for me.
There is always âthat guyâ. Better teams simply have higher standards.
You wonât be consistently carried as a solo. You can on a static team. SR is individually based, so it can be out of whack for you if you only play with static teams.
Hah, yeah, get in a comp lfg and dont join voice. Tell me how that goes. Also, do you think teams of soloes donât communicate? Most solo comp players are in voice.
Your group will generally expect you to play consistently. If you have to get up from the game frequently, grouping doesnât work.
This is more of an issue in QP where you get really absurd games but it affects comp on a smaller level.
I am almost entirely a QP player so thatâs mostly what Iâm concerned about.
The community forums are primarily intended for the community to share ideas, strategies, and creativity with each other. Its a place to meet new friends. Its also a place to report game bugs or seek technical assistance with things like disconnections. Yes the devs participate on the forums, but that is not the primary function of it.
The Overwatch Development team is VERY aware of the state of Competitive Play. A good source of information is the interview between Emongg and Game Director Jeff Kaplan from a little over a month ago.
I play in Gold myself and I know what you mean, realistically, if you want to climb you MUST carry your team. I know this from experience.
Depends on the rank, when I fell to Bronze in season 3, I played Pharah a lot to get out and demonlished them. Bronze players severely lack game awareness skills and this is something they need to learn on their own, the game canât change it for them.
What will force them?
The perception of players deliberately throwing games to play in lower ranks is real but I donât see it as a nearly an evident problem as player pretend that it is. Yeah there are a lot of âalternate accountsâ but I see little evidence of smurfing in my games. Are some games one-sided? Hell yes, but like many team-based games, Overwatch can snowball easily. Principal Designer Scott Mercer has specifically said:
If you see a player throwing in your games, report them for gameplay sabotage using the in-game report tool. Be sure to provide a detailed description of the violation.
If you see a player being abusive in voice or text comms, report them for Abusive Chat using the in-game report tool. Be sure to provide a detailed description of the violation.
This is not for you to worry about, Blizzard does ban players across multiple accounts associated with an account that repeatedly violates the Blizzard Code-of-Conduct. Players do not get to see specific details of report actions to other accounts because this results in harassment and toxicity in communities such as these forums.
The Overwatch Team is considering on reworking the Competitive Ruleset to enforce a standard 2 Damage/2 Tank/2 Support restricted ruleset, though this is not confirmed yet. If they do, the skill rating system would be role-specific and separated among the three roles. Right now the rating system represents how well you represent yourself as a player entirely and your adaptability to any team situation.
There are a lot of specfics available if you have been paying attention.
They have.
When itâs ready.
When its ready.
They are.
Sorry, but it doesnât work like this. For example, they are working on a third social feature which they hoped to have ready by end of summer 2018, but they realized it will require a lot more work and have postponed it to sometime later in 2019. Blizzard doesnât like to roadmap or give timetables, because they donât want to upset impatient players (such as yourself).
Despite what you think, I firmly believe the game is in a relatively healthy spot. I rarely have toxic games in my competitive matches (and I have the realistic expectation that when I play with stragners there will always be the possibility of playing such toxic individuals). We have the Looking-for-group tool when we want a little more organization in our games (yes it works!).
You appear to be new here Kimmy, the forums uses a feature called the Dev Tracker and Blizz Tracker to see all official responses from Community Managers (blue posts) and the Development Team (orange posts). Also a third-party website, overstalk.io, is great for tracking official posts on all forums of social media including these forums and reddit. If that is not enough, I myself maintain a directory of all developer responses for players to easily look up valuable informaton.
Please do not start tech support web tickets for matters like this. That system is strictly intended for players who are having issues with their specific account or running the game on their systems.
Participating in team comms is recommended, but is never required. I try to participate in team comms as long as the communication is healthy, however, if there is too much harassment I will leave it knowing at that point that is the better option for me to concentrate and win the match with.
TBH, I would prefer if they tried to call me on the phone or at least attempted to contact me on Skype or Discord, or at least talk to me face-to-face at my apartment.
Well, that might be asking a lot, but I do recall one time challenging someone who purported to be the daughter of a professional wrestler wanting me to be a manager of a group of professional wrestlers. I challenged that person to show up at my door at home.
Never happened, as I suspected would be the outcome. I know when people are lying to me. I eventually gave up on that dream. it was never going to happen anywayâŚ
âŚ.just as I will never believe that the developers actually have my interest at heart. They have to prove it to me first before I believe it. just consider me as an example of the parable of St. Thomas the Doubter: âUnless I see the nail prints in his hands and can put my hand in the wound in his side, I will not believe.â Itâs hard to believe a lot of the universe exists without first-hand experience, though some second-had experience from others can sometimes be believed. Just donât expect me to be a lemming.