This cc experimental has shown me even more how pathetically biased people on here actually are. “No doomfist nerfs? Where are the doom nerfs? R u kidding me no doom nerfs?” No. He didnt get nerfed because he’s NOT GOOD. But people refuse to see that. Because hes annoying and they don’t like him, they want him butchered.
It is SO funny to me how these people can try to defend mei from the nerf train, saying “just because shes poorly designed and annoying doesn’t mean shes op”, just for me to see them in the replies of the experimental card saying “WHERE ARE THE DOOMFIST NERFS?!”
In Yourself’s massive overwatch survey(shoutout to you btw) Doomfist landslided ACTUAL META HEROES for people wanting him to receive large nerfs.
And then there’s the obvious one, moira. Now look, while I am tired of the moira posts, there is a way to go about them… proposing a potential rework for the hero is one thing… saying “well we should reduce her beam range and increase fade cooldown and make orb kill her instead” is not the way to go about it…
If you cannot consistently kill moira as any dps, you SUCK. I’m sorry to lay that on you. I consistently put her down as mccree, reaper, tracer, genji and soldier. If you can’t kill a moira with the dps you main, you are absolutely awful at this game. Its like I said, proposing changes for her skill is one thing. But going for nerfs because you’re God awful at this game and can’t duel moira without dying is just stupid. Try playing tank if you hate her that much. Then you’ll learn about REAL problematic heroes.
I’m tired of heroes being witch hunted just because they’re annoying and people don’t like them. I absolutely despise Junkrat. I think he’s a piece of trash character design with no skill basis who holds low rank players back due to his horrific design. But he’s not good right now, and that is very obvious. So how would you feel if I just went off saying “guys Junkrat needs nerfs?” Yeah, itd be stupid.
Its honestly getting difficult to handle these forums the way they are. I love so many of the people on here, but there are much MORE people who just have absolutely awful mindsets who would rather whine and complain about every single hero and game mechanic instead of actually getting better. Yes, I agree. I hate doomfists design. I think its absolutely awful. Do I want him nerfed? No. Use common sense…
surely if it’s an overwhelming hate from a large proportion of people, even if “bias” it highlights a fundamental issue with a character from a gameplay enjoyment point of view.
Same can be said for Sombra and Bastion but even worse, despite being UP in certain situations they are horrible to play against when they do work so asking for nerfs isn’t unexpected.
its funny people complaining about doom when McCree is far more oppressive/annoying and receives less hate than a hero thats recieved multiple nerfs and is currently balanced.
As Someone who plays Sombra I was kinda floored when I saw no hack nerfs on experimental. When people talk about their hatred of the overabundance of cc the biggest offenders are usually Doom, Sombra and maybe ball? The biggest complaints I see about McCree are the fire rate on his primary not his stun. Sigma’s old rock combo that could one-shot is gone now so his changes are kinda weird?
Some of these changes are buffs to cc lol. And the ones they nerfed are to heroes with cc no one complains about…other than rein I guess. But is shatter the main reason rein is so good? It is a great ult but he has a lot of stuff going for him rn. Is Ana sleep something a lot of people complain about? I hear more complaints about her nade. Brig shield bash seems fine to me. Mei has already been nerfed pretty hard
Absolutely. I dont make rant posts too often, but when I do, it really helps me hearing people logically discuss my rant topic with me, and just knowing other people know how I feel.
When DPS are expected to play perfectly, and a Moira can swoop in and finish you off…yea. Definitely not biased
At the end of the day I think everyone wants to feel like they have a chance, not just be shutdown because they picked rock and they have paper.
We never really had this stuff in TF2, Pyros for me were never a problem as Spy, only good Pyros. No matter what class you played, you always had options and ways to deal with each class by design. Which is kinda the point, a good Moira should be problematic, as expected. But that line between good and not good is pretty blurred, and really not that long.
That being said, it’s really ironic how many complaints I see about heroes like Doom, Genji, or Widow when they are some of the more demanding heroes to play. As the players get better, so does the skill needed to play them.
It’s funny when views and opinions align with others, especially in the case with those you usually dont agree with. I think the wave of Moira posts is mostly attributed to the fact that Blizz never addresses these threads directly and let them fester into things that shouldnt even exist.
And that’s okay! It’s okay to say, “this hero requires no skill Expression, here’s changes I wanna see”. What I hate are the people who say that and say “shes op she needs nerfs”
People acknowledge that Doomfist and Moira are not meta. A lot of us understand that they are not overpowered.
However, my entire contention for both is that their designs are awful. They cannot be meta without causing a disgusting amount of frustration. I’m happy to report that I also did not defend Mei - she’s on the same boat.
I don’t want Doomfist or Mei butchered; I’d rather have them reworked so that their primary function doesn’t revolve around “you lose entire control of your character”.
Moira - I just want a rework so she takes more effort and gets more reward for it.
I think Doomfist’s design is awful, and while I don’t think he’s overpowered, I can’t say that I don’t want him nerfed. Ideally I’d rather have him reworked. But when a hero causes so much frustration in-game just by their existence and the fact that everything they do moves you around like a pinball - no…I’d rather not have him in the game if this is how it has to be.
It means that I have to end up babysitting him all game, and instead of playing Overwatch, it becomes a game of, “how much do I have to piss off this Doomfist before he swaps”, which is not fun.
And I’m not saying that people are rational about wanting him nerfed - they’re not. I’m not. But I also can’t blame them for thinking, “Why isn’t Doomfist part of this anti-CC patch?” when he 90% CC in his kit.
Fair enough, I don’t mind her being good at dueling, but she needs to work hard like other DPS heroes. If her Grasp was more akin to Symmetra and Zarya’s beam, and buffed the damage and health leech to scale the longer you stay on target, that would be fine.
people that dont have a problem with a hero aint going to come here and tell everybody how much fun they had , or how they were destroying everything on the maps and having 80 kills etc… even if they do , post will be buried coz nobody cares…
so ofc you are going to see a problematic heroes more often…i mean use common sense
No see I agree. Thats an okay stance to have…what’s not okay is these people who will blindly hate on doomfist and be like “his whole kit should be nerfed with no compensation, hes really strong rn” like lol no he isnt
I try to remember that there’s always the possibility that said hero will be on my team. So if I wish them to be garbage, it’s important to remember that they’d be garbage on my team lmao