Healthy ideas for Widowmaker nerfs/changes?

You know as well as I do that they would never do that. They’d sledgehammer her, leave her for over a year, then maybe tweak her slightly, then sledgehammer nerf her again because people cried she’s above D tier

Widowmaker doesn’t need any nerfs. End of discussion

Well I don’t know what they will do, but there’s no technical reason they can’t be patching the game more frequently with smaller changes.

Yeah, but they won’t because they’re terrible at balance with very, very slow balance changes.

Well maybe I just need to be more vocal about “You went to the effort to build a hotfix system for gameplay patches, and now you’re barely ever using it”.

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Overwatch needs player growth and profits.

Anybody who doesn’t want that, can easily be ignored.

Now THAT I agree with

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I’ve been on this issue for a while now…

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Patch 1.43 clarification

Lol, guy thinks his opinion and this sub is a monolith. News flash; overwatch has a strong player base right now. More players now than there was since 2020. Blizzard is making a ton of money. Looks like your the one who needs to get a life here Mr 68,000 posts

And Overwatch could always grow more if they got rid of some hurdles in the way.
I.e. Really boring/frustrating sniper counterplay.

And the only real value of high ELO is “Marketing” from high ELO streamers. But almost all of those hate the current Sniper situation. So you aren’t going to win there.

Otherwise, high ELO contributes almost nothing to player growth. There’s just barely any bulk number of players there.

And player growth is pretty much where all the money is at.

Again, majority of players are fine with widowmaker regardless of what the forums would have you believe. Nobody below diamond is having to deal with players who are even good at widow anyways

Lies, complete lies. As a member of the gold community, we see plenty of widows and hanzo. They dont land everyshot, but they land enough where they can easiler pose a threat.

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Maybe because y’all stand like sitting ducks in garbage positions lol. It’s not the widow, it’s you that’s the problem

I really doubt that majority of players enjoy having to deal with oneshot spam.

That’s the thing. It’s not a balance issue.

It’s a frustrating/boring counterplay issue.

“WELL THEY DIDN’T WIN THE MATCH WHEN YOU RESPONDED WITH BORING COUNTERPLAY”.

Who gives a crap, it was frustrating and boring.

Long term, all that does is either increase the number of oneshot DPS players, which it has been doing
Or people just quit, which they have been doing.

That picture proves absolutely nothing :joy:

So you don’t see the part where Hanzo and Widow are some of the most frequently used DPS in the game, and therefore people constantly have to deal with almost every match?

I get it now, you just toxic. We can only dodge so much, she will miss her shots but eventually 1 will land. Or you just respawned took 1 foot out of spawn and got shot because the widow was camping you. The widow hooks into the air around the cover i was behind and shoots me.

Im not saying im a top 500 player, i know enough about the game to not walk in a strait line with a widow, or to play behind cover. Pick heros to flank her. I do everthing widow defernders say to do, yet here i am still getting 1 tap from across the map from 3 pixels i didnt see.

Widow biggest counter was 2 tanks, there is 1 tank now. So do that math. Widow lost her biggest counter and people like you blinded by widows bum that you cant even admit that she is a issue.

You literately said that its not her its everyone else. That is so egotistical. You can like a hero and still admit there is a issue with her. I love zen but he is busted in 5v5 becuase discord on a tank provides so much value. Widow is a issue, something needs to change, weather that is her health, rate of fire, damage, mobility, or something else.

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First of all, Overbuff isn’t accurate at all. Secondly, the pick rates are both less than 5%. You can’t deal with a 10% change you’ll see them in your game?

I want you to know that you look very hypocritical right now. First and foremost, not everyone on the forums needs to have a formatted essay to explain something, OP was very clear in what they wanted to portray/put out there.

Your unnecessary comments also tried to de-rail OPs output, even if you didn’t have the intention to do so. As long as a post makes sense (and it isn’t rude/weird), it shouldn’t be analyzed as if it was a science script.