Hazard before today’s patch was one of the most OP tanks we’ve ever had. He was more OP than D.Va a few seasons ago by 3x based on pick rates in Top 500. He was more OP than Mauga, though also more fun. I say this just to setup his level of power.
Now, I have not had a chance to play him or against him since today’s patch. So, I am trying desperately to avoid having a knee jerk reaction. And I know sometimes small changes can actually have massive impact. But I do not think a 1 second cooldown change on Violent leap is going to do it. I could be wrong, but that is my gut reaction.
Something else I hadn’t initially thought of is that Ana is Hazard’s main check. And she just got nerfed which is a buff to him. So, he did get a nerf but to me it doesn’t feel significant enough considering how broken he was and the fact that one of the main counterpicks to him was nerfed.
One other thought. Remember how I said he was fun? The part of the kit they nerfed is the fun part. IMO they really should have nerfed his block not his leap. Not only would that have had more impact on his survivability but it’s also not what makes him fun.
I’m curious what other people think. Anyone main Hazard here have input?
No offense intended, but people are a wee bit crazy, lad. One second on his leap is a MASSIVE nerf. Let’s wait and see how it plays out, yeah? I bet my bottom haggis that this will indeed fetter his purple reign.
I don’t like Hazard much, but fun level aside, I think your assessment is pretty correct.
I think Ana’s bionade change matters more to her self survivability when she’s not getting help more than otherwise, or otherwise healing a group with it. So I don’t really expect it to have a big impact on her effectiveness (as I recall, it didn’t make a huge difference when they gave her that buff originally, and with most flankers being 225 HP she’s better equipped to fight back now than when grenade went up to 90).
Overall, I think the patch was too small in terms of both magnitude and volume of changes. Ana and Juno excepted; they probably got suitably sized changes.
Forum Hazard is scary. He has the mobility of DF, the CC of Doomfist, the shielding of Rein, the poke of Sigma, the ultimate of Zarya and DVA combined. I know he is dominating the Top leaderboards, but let’s stop pretending people on the forums are that level. He’s a hard to play Tank that the top players know how to push to the max, cause he sure isn’t close to Mauga launch levels at the metal ranks. He’s a risky pick there.
I could see the argument he is somewhat easier as he is more straight forward, but the mobility options of DF make him way harder to lock down. A Hazard blocking is a slow moving, large target for Ana to sleep and anti. And Ana is just about always around.
DF has ways more methods of escaping a bad engage.
He is not dominating Gold. Gold is typically Zarya, Rein, and Mauga. With people jumping on Ram to counter Rein. If there is a Hazard, the Ana/Bastion/Reaper/Pharah start coming out if they weren’t already.
Your bias for DVA is showing, DVA’s second chance ult alone makes her easier to play Hazard who has one of the weakest Tank ults. And I personally always felt Winston was one of the easiest tanks in the game, besides using his ult well… he’s basically Moira/Mercy effort for Tanks.
Mauga is bad. You see him at all? I know Rein is better at lower ranks but Hazard still dumps on him if the Hazard player is even remotely decent. Rein isn’t bad though. Even in top 500 he’s 3rd best. Zarya is underrated imo.
It’s not bias if it’s true. D.Va is the 3rd hardest tank. Hazard is maybe number 4. I know how to play literally every single tank. Hazard is like an easier version of Doomfist.
When I say hard, I’m generally talking about skill ceiling not skill floor. I do think Hazard’s skill floor isn’t as low as some other tanks but it’s not crazy either.
Winston definitely isn’t one of the easiest tanks. He’s up there with Hazard and D.Va when it comes to skill ceiling easily. Dive tanks in general are harder than non-dive tanks. If you think that he’s Mercy or Moira level then that confirms for me that you have no clue at all.