Harder to climb to platinum with tank or support?

I had a real hard time to climb to platinum with Tank but I did it. It seemed no matter how good I played, I could not do enough to influence many games.

I was wondering if I would have similar difficult climbing to platinum with support, mostly playing Moira.

My question is mostly is if support is even worse than tank when it comes to influencing the game and it would even be harder to climb to platinum with support.

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Oh god if you think okay is hard to climb into imagine getting into diamond I’ve been in mid plat for 2-3 seasons I think

But I believe in you for support I mostly play Mercy and Moira but I usually switch to lucid depending on the other support for example: we have an Ana or a Mercy since they both heal only one person I go to Lucio if my teammate picks Lucio I pick one that does great singular player healing like Ana or mercy

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It’s harder to rank up as Support at that rank and lower because Supports are affected more by poor Tank and DPS teammates than the inverse. At an equal skill level, being the skill of the player, Tanks and DPS can carry more than an equally skilled Support.

The lower rank it goes the bigger than deficit Supports are at with poor teammates. Go Tank.

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It’s the hardest role to climb with but as long as you enjoy playing the role then you’re set :slight_smile:

Difficulty is like this:

Tank>support>dps

It is hardest with dps role. But it depends on certain heroes too. For example soldier main will still climb more easy and faster than mercy main.

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Supports not too hard to climb on. Just play Moria, and watch a few moria guides from streamers. went from 2200-3k in about a week.

That’s a weird statement because at face level none are ā€œtoo hardā€ by that logic. It’s undeniably harder for Supports with poor Tank or DPS teammates than the inverse.

It’s undeniably most difficult as Support, especially the lower the rank you go. The burden on Supports with poor teammates is heavier. To say otherwise is either being willfully ignorant or it’s inherited.

Well thats your opinion. I think dps is much harder because dps can do one thing only, doing dps. Tanks are dps with big health pool and supports are dps with healing power and utility :slight_smile:

Only the fact that waiting time for dps is 11 minutes will make your climbing effort on dps hell. Its not fun either as you are blamed for almost every loss as dps and often flamed by bad support or tank players.

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It’s not an opinion, it’s fact. That is how games like these work. All roles can do more than DPS or Tank or Support. DPS can do their role more than a Support and Tank because that’s how these games work and that precisely why Supports are affected more by poorer teammates, because the other roles can do theirs more than Supports. Its very simple.

No its not and you are wrong :slight_smile:

I climbed on support many times in past. On all roles on different alt account so i can compare and dps has the hardest life to climb right now. Tank is the most easy so support is in the middle.

Why do you think goats is so powerfull? Because you can have 3 tank and 3 support heroes and dps cant stop it because it has less power.

Tanks are deciding factor in most games and you can enable them as support, keep them alive, and you can save whole team from powerfull ults.

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Welp you missed the point. It’s not a matter of climbing or not, so you saying you’ve climbed as Support has no bearing on what’s being said here. How is that so hard for you to understand? What kind of subpar third world education did you receive? DPS simply cannot have the easiest time because on an equal skill level Tanks and DPS can do more than a Support. That is simply how these games work.

Here, read this and try your very hardest to comprehend. All of this is useless if you have poor Tank and DPS teammates. All of that good Support play is moot if you have Tanks that can’t push or DPS can’t confirm. Less so for Tanks but still there say if Zarya gravs 4+ but DPS can’t confirm anything. The inverse, a Reaper can wipe a team with no input from Supports, a Rein can shut down a push with minimal Support, a Mei can do the same. But what about that Transcendence or Sound Barrier? Their Sustain is worth nothing, actually a negative split, with poor teammates. That’s something that sooooo many people here seem to not be able to comprehend. THAT is why it’s harder for Supports with poor teammates than the inverse.

It will be harder if you play like average teamplayer, you need to have booster’s mentality to rank up at all roles consistently, that way you know the weak spots of every rank and how to take advantage of it.
On to my experience, if you play in metals, you need to play as solo cary with any role, as soon u’ve reached masters you need to play more team reliant and doing as less mistakes as you can, and the spread between risk and reward here is much wider than in metals, where actual poor play is rewarded the most.

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DPS cant do more than support.

Maybe try use arguments instead of attack Ing me.

Yeah and zen ult can make reapers ult completely useless, brig can make reaper useless… And many other situation where support can easily carry games and dps would not be able to. If you think support role is harder to climb, it is your opinion not a fact, maybe you are just not good enough on support. Dps has one big issue, they can only dps. If you play certain support heroes you can compensate for your dps but you cannot compensate for support as dps. Few dps heroes can compensate little bit for other roles but not like support can compensate for them.

Another factor is PBSR, because there is so many smurfs playing dps, its harder to gain more sr for good performance as in past.

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Yes they can. On an equal skill level between a Tank, DPS, and Support, the former two are able to carry more of a burden than the latter. I just gave you several practical ingame examples as to why that is. I am sorry you were educated poorly. Those were my arguments that you conveniently are ignoring. I’m not attacking you, you are saying foolish things and I am calling you a fool, I am calling a spade a spade, I am sorry it hurts your feelings calling you what you are acting like.

Again you are missing the point. You are putting in your own hypotheticals to make your point. You are missing the whole ā€œat equal skill levelā€ part. At the base, all things equal and everyone getting everything they can do in their optimal setting a Support simply can’t do as much as the former.

Example since I have to basically use crayons for you to understand it seems, A Reaper who has perfect positioning will take a team by surprise, he will not need any help AT AN EQUAL SKILL LEVEL. On the other side, say that Zenyatta does Transcendence and stops that Blossom, good, you are maybe at 0 again, but if your teammates cannot follow up that save then it was all moot vs being +1, those cancelled each other out. Similar, A Zarya can grav 3+, say the other team has no counter at the moment, they are completely open, if the teammates cannot follow up then that was moot. However that Zarya can still do a bit more with that than a Support can but still less than a DPS.

This is not hard to understand. A completely barebones example would be like saying if all roles and characters were equal then there’d be no need for Tank or DPS because a, say, Brig could just do it all. Do you see how dumb that sounds? That’s what you sound like. A Support is affected more by poor teammates because Supports cannot carry the same amount of burden as Tanks and DPS can with poor teammates.

If you cannot comprehend something simple like that then you are either being willfully ignorant or it is inherited and you should be upset with your extremely poor upbringing and education.

Ridiculous point that proves you were educated poorly. You are conflating different points to try to make an argument against something that no one said. You keep conveniently ignoring points I made to say silly unrelated stuff like this, quite embarassing. Contact your guardians immediately and demand to know why they raised you so poorly, you should be upset.

I am done discussing with you. Half of stuff you write is just insulting, because your arguments are weak. I can only suggest you to go learn support role better because you are obviously missing a lot and you are completely wrong. Little advice to your life: learn to respect opinions from others and dont insult people just because you dont like their opinion. Welcome to my ignore list btw.

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Ahahaha, the proverbial white flag when you cannot defend your position and refute what someone laid out for you. You were never ā€œdiscussingā€ anything. You said I was wrong but you couldn’t articulate why, you conveniently ignored all the practical ingame examples I gave to support my stance. If you are acting foolish, don’t be mad when someone calls you out as a fool.

You are tucking your tail and running away without even trying to address the many practical ingame examples that explain why I am correct. You are more concerned that you got your feelings hurt than you are with actually trying to provide a rebuttal why you think someone is wrong. Hilarious and pathetic. I don’t respect opinions or people who proudly wave their ignorance around, I gave you many reasons and examples but you can only say ā€œNo you’re wrong, but I cannot at all tell you why/ā€

This has nothing to do with ā€œknowing a roleā€ or learning how to play X better as I stated that at an equal skill level between the 3 roles this still holds true. So the fact that you are even bringing that up shows that you are intellectually bankrupt as that has nothing at all to do with what Im saying. But please continue to say someone is wrong about something they didnt even talk about, lmao.

You are done here Xion, thanks for playing. Don’t go into a battle of wits unarmed next time. <3

Deffo tank.

I barely play support but got to plat pretty easily. Hell moira or brig are pretty much free passes to higher ranks.

Tanks for me atleast is much harder as I just dont seem to get help. I push the choke my entire team sits back and watches. Supportscseem to always pocket the dps that isnt doingvanything.

Honestly I found support easiest.

If you just play the most busted support there is.

Ana.

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He is telling you the truth…

You can carry on of tank way more than dps.

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