Hard truth for some of you

Seriously if you like bans in competitive, you don’t actually like competitive gaming. You want a way to not be challenged. That’s the ultimate casual attitude. Which is fine put it in casual modes. I want to compete, I want to know I can compete, I want to know my rank when I have to face every hero this game allows. Heck imo nothing would be more meaningful that competitive mystery heroes role queue where you really need to be a master. But they’ll never do that.

Changing the rules to make your rank go up isn’t the same thing as improving. Knowing inside that the game is lying about how good I am because I haven’t played against a sombra all season is annoying! I’ve gone up 3 sub ranks and it feels so cheap and uninteresting. Get this marvel rivals ultra casual garbage out of competitive!

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Bans in competitive games has been a thing for decades. Not every competitive game sure but its not exactly a rare thing.

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Bans are inevitable in a hero shooter. Especially one like ow where some heroes are generally always better than others.

OW has bans because the devs can’t balance to save their lives.

I want to not play against the same hero every time when i’m d.va.
Can’t do it in qp , can’t in arcade so comp it is.

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Most competitive games have hero/champion bans. League has it, Rivals launched with it, iirc Paladins has it? It’s mostly ones where the character is less important than some other aspect like weapons or items that don’t, like Apex and Valorant.

Even games that don’t have it in the game often have in their competitive scene ruleset like Apex sometimes does.

The only people it should be consistently affecting are onetricks, and specifically onetricks of annoying or OP heroes, in which case, frick 'em. There’s no way you going up over half a rank can be directly tied to hero bans, unless you’re like a Silver Widow one trick and get diddled by Sombra every game otherwise.

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I’d almost be inclined to agree were it not for the menace known as Zarya being in my wholesome Dva games

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Yes, sometimes accompanied with a draft phase. So no character can be on both teams.
Also, typically, you can’t switch in those games after the match started.

OW is not one of those typical games.
(though stadium is heading more in that direction if that’s what you like)

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I mean, seeing as sombra is banned the most, and most people who complain about her admit she’s not a meta pick by any means… to me shows the players are using bans as a way to lessen frustrating/cheap hero mechanics, not to lessen the challenge.

Just because something is banned doesn’t automatically make the game easier. Sure on paper if you ban ana, hog will be a lot easier to play, but what if the enemy just straight up know how to play around hog on other heroes without direct counterpicking? XD

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Nah, I just don’t enjoy going up against Widow on Havana etc. The point of video games, competitive or otherwise, is to have fun.

But congratulations on climbing, anyway. I doubt Sombra being around would really have made a difference to you. It’s not like she’s actually any good.

Yeah, I had a game where our Hog pushed for an Ana ban and the enemy swapped to a Mauga for our troubles. Yikes! :grimacing:

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Never in a competitive game like overwatch because it makes no sense. In games with like 100 characters sure I guess. And at pro level to help shape an entire team comp it can make sense. Not in a competitive queue. I’ve been semi professional gaming since like 1997? It makes no sense here.

Name one hero shooter with bans? Rivals? Cause that’s brand new, not competitive in any real way and it’s Open queue so it doesn’t have role queue baggage. No role locked team hero shooter.

I’m arguing them to allow you to do that.

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Sounds like you want to swap to a crutch hero when you’re about to lose to compensate for your skill issue

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Not in the slightest. I want to beat the pants off the people that do, but I can’t because their hero is banned and I’m getting rusty.

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cough Siege cough

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This is the ultimate cope I’ve seen so far about bans

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Bans are a poor band-aid for a team that hasn’t balanced the game effectively for 5v5 nor 6v6.

But who can blame them: you can’t balance for Wii console Bronze to OWL on the same patch. So what do? (I say different balance patches per tier :smiling_imp:)

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I personally implemented bans specifically for the purpose of making my rank go up. I don’t want to improve.

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I went up a full rank after the bans - but I nonetheless oppose them too!

:older_man: :clap:

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There’s nothing challenging about a Sombra spamming your backline with invis, there’s nothing challenging about a Ball player stalling your tank or the payload

5/10 ragebait

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Youre right, OP. Epic hard truth.

Every time I ban Sombra I cheat not only the game but myself. I didnt grow. I didnt improve. I took a short cut and gained nothing. I experience a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. Im sad because I dont know the difference of what true comp gamers are. :sob:

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I’d turn it on Blizz. If they would allow competitive bans, they admit they designed the roster wrong. I get it that other games do this, but Blizz seems to pride itself on its roster while also catering to upper ranks.

What really stands out is that Ana’s one ability has been complained about for so many years, and they’ve not touched it even once.

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Okay, I take issue with the way you phrased this. I love the spirit. These people do not like competitive integrity. That being said, competitive gaming has no competitive integrity. They probably do love “competitive” gaming because they get babied.

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