Hanzo is the best short range hero in the game

Reaper can two tap or even one tap Hanzo by the time he draws his bow.

Mei can block Hanzo’s arrows by going into her ice cube.

Bastion cannot be one-shotted in turret mode.

Echo can kill in milliseconds with focus beam.

Genji just needs to jump around Hanzo.

The only close range heroes Hanzo can actually beat in a 1v1 is Sombra and maybe Cassidy.

Nice elitism. What does your majesty consider as the rank you have to achieve to have an opinion worth more than the majority of the playerbase? Quickplay can have good players, same as comp.

Also showing raw numbers on practise range does matter as it shows the maximum potential for the character in actual games. You have your damage per second minus accuracy and so on.

I prefer to call it skill.

Diamond or higher. Higher rank=more valuable opinion.

Good players generally do not try in qp.

No, it doesn’t. Choosing Hog and shooting at him with 100% accuracy doesn’t reflect what Hanzo in real games is like, with more like 30-40% accuracy at BEST, with not all of those being headshots. You’re being disingenuous and you know it.

Correction best any range in the game, he requires zero aim just spam and forget.

Hanzo has some issues up close and I fully agree that even if he isnt as good as a hitscan sniper at long range, he should not be able to randomly oneshot a close range DPS that managed to close the gap…

…but calling him ‘‘no aim’’ is peak stupid behavior.

At like 6-8 meters, somewhere around there, which he should have no problem flanking to reach, he can kill most non-tanks in 3 shots by shooting center mass. Most Hanzo players will have the “oh ****” reaction and be less accurate as a result with a character that requires a minimum of 2-3 shots to kill Reaper, who can fire 3 shots faster than Hanzo can fire 2 (not including the easy to miss/ waste Storm Arrow).

Reaper does have the advantage at close range, the problem is that as in all games, there are “sweet spots” to a player/ characters effective range.

Damage fall off
Accuracy
Player reaction times at various ranges

A Tracer at 15 meters is a lot easier to line up shots against than at 2 meters even without Blink because she’s not so close that her strafing can make you lose sight of her just as quickly a you get it.

Hanzo is basically the OW definition of feast or famine. His potential is insane in a good way, and unless you’ve reached probably Diamond or Masters with him, you WILL lose almost every close ranged to anyone equipped for it, especially if they get the drop on you like Sombra.

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Hanzo cant even one tap Reaper anymore. What the hell is this post.

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Practice range is really only good for seeing what a character can do theoretically. Yes, Hanzo has higher burst damage than just about everyone else in the game, but he has a harder time getting that potential BECAUSE he fires projectiles, which are harder to aim with by default because your predictions need to be accurate whereas hit scans just need good tracking. Even Arrge doesn’t have the kind of accuracy to get this damage.

1 regular body shot for 120, or 240 crit
5 body shots of Storm 325, or 650 for crits

When even the best of the best don’t land 40-50% of his shots on average and only half the ones who do land hit the head, he’s not doing 445-890 in a single go of 6 arrows if fired back to back. That potential can drop significantly depending on what arrows miss what character hit box. If he misses the first arrow, that’s 120-240 less damage, and chances are he’s missing the next two, so that’s another 130-260 lost.

Oh hell no. What the heck? You crazy, girl. :joy:

He can’t one shot Reaper anymore. By the time he aims his shot and hits his head, IF he hits it on his first try, Reaper has been able to kill him. Torb up close is even better because he’s faster and harder to aim at with a faster and stronger shotgun. JQ two shots him.

Hanzo isn’t that strong against shotguns unless he kills them before they get close. Once he’s in their effective range he’s at a disadvantage.

He does not need to one shot Reaper to be a decent pick into Reaper. I assure you most Reaper mains hate playing into him. :joy:

His burst is more than enough unless you close the distance without him knowing which is quite difficult for a plethora of reasons.

And he is hardly defenseless even if you do. I am not trying to say he invalidates Reaper or anything, but he is absolutely a soft counter at worst.

That’s the point. Once you’re within your effective range as Reaper you have the upper hand. While Reaper would definitely be the last hero I’d pick to counter Hanzo(First is Echo, then Tracer, then maybe Sojourn) I’d still pick him if I for some reason couldn’t pick Tracer/Echo/Sojourn/Widow/etc.

Hanzo has a lot of soft counters imo. Some are just better than others, and Reaper is one of the worst.

this is intentional. Bastion is spray and pray easy damage, Hanzo is precision based.

Btw, I probably mentioned this before, but what would you think about it they did this.

Hanzo

  • All arrows travel 20% faster projectile speed.
  • StormArrows have half damage, but with a 4x headshot.

Hanzo and Widow were fine when you could swap to tank to dive them without getting 1 shotted.

Then we got hero limits, role limits, and finally 5v5.

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the toilet.

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Hanzo destroys Reaper so why are you trying to duel him?

Mei has the smallest projectile… Also, hers don’t bounce off floors, walls or turn around corners.

Hanzo logs are called logs for a reason.

What? Mei’s icicles are huge compared to Hanzo’s arrows and they travel faster too.

Genji, Hanzo and Echo are tied for the smallest projectiles in the game.

I’m more and more convinced that most people here who complain about Hanzo do not play the game, this is why they are always spreading misinformation like storm arrow melts tanks (it can’t even outdamage mccree’s M1), his arrows are logs or that he is insanely mobile.

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Wrong. Try looking it up.

EDIT: I did it myself. Mei’s icicles are THREE TIMES BIGGER THAN HANZO’S ARROWS.