It is considered cheating, when smurfing to boost or derank.
There are cheaters in all ranks of Overwatch, even in contenders and OWL. Like with other eSport games, Overwatch is no exception.
That’s not how anti cheats work.
When someone activates their aimbot or wallhack and leave it turned on, it will get detected, granted the developer has added their algorithms to their anti cheat software.
Only an AI anti cheat can determine whether or not their inputs are human or 3rd party software, and Blizzard doesn’t use any AI anti cheat that works properly. If they do use one, it’s too early in development to be relied upon for detection and confirmations.
This is why a lot of cheaters aren’t being detected, because they use toggle aimbots that they toggle on when needed through a keybind, mostly on their mouse, and some can be configured to have a more ‘soft aim’ approach but these are the expensive ones. They can still be detected but to truly see it and confirm it, you sometimes need to watch the replay in super slow motion (0.25x speed). The so-called ‘best-buy’ aimbots and wallhacks can’t be as easily configured and are typically very very easy to spot even without going into super slow motion on the replay.
Oh to do things like boost absolutely, but is it smurfing when you create a new account? Nah. Can’t help the fact that you’ve been placed in that elo. But I do agree if someone has purposely deranked themselves by throwing then that is reportable. The problem with this method though is how do you know if someone is smurfing and has been throwing games to derank or if they’re just on a freshie they wanna use as an alt account?
I agree, but Birdring? Someone who plays at a facility for owl pro’s and has played on stage with the provided machines and has popped off? Nah absolutely not. So this still holds true. These players who obviously are not cheating and have proven themselves to not be cheaters at the highest level on the cleanest of machines just got mass reported which is exactly what I said.
Yeah pretty much what I said, but I didn’t as much into detail. What I have seen is that someone has a toggle/soft lock hack active and then as the game progresses and it looks like they’ll lose the thresholds get upped. The aim becomes less “soft lock” and rather than being toggled occasionally it’s being used far more often. It couldn’t be detected before but when a certain threshold for the cheats use has happened then the AI or anti cheat software can detect it.
automated system of bans doesn’t care, you are getting banned even if you are hacking (using ability) on sombra, lol not lol. If you play better – you are a cheater, which was proven for me banned on my 1st f2p account I made after going 25-0 in quickplay the next day.
Making a new account while your main account sits at a high rank, to stomp the lower ranks is the literal definition of smurfing.
Alt account is just another way of saying ‘smurf’.
Others have done the same in other games and have been caught red handed cheating in competitions. It’s just a matter of time before it happens in OWL and Contenders as well.
Completely disagree that making an alt account is the same as smurfing. Alt accounts are fine, imo, they’re an account where you play your best and learn new heroes on them. Sure the competition might be lower than your main, but then your ability with a new hero will be significantly lower than your main.
As an example, say you were a rein otp but wanted to learn to play dva or doom (imagine these are completely new released heroes) you could play it on your main in comp… but you’ll be throwing. You’ll get no where near the value you would on your main char and derank massively. Now if you then played rein after those matches you would be smurfing because of your new lower rank/mmr.
Alt accounts make sense to me for those who want to learn a new char. If the matches are too easy then you switch to main because obviously you learn nothing from an easy game.
And again, yes others may have been caught in other competitions/games, but no one has in OWL or contenders. Maybe some cheat there, possibly, but no one has been caught so I’m not sure what you point is? No one has been caught, Birdring especially has a lot of scrutiny having played on stage on clean machines where the matches will be reviewed and seen by a lot of people and he still got banned for cheating twice. My point still is exactly the same, someone good at the game who gets reported enough can get banned for “cheating” even though they are legit.
Disagree as much as you want, but it’s still an undeniable fact.
Anyone trying to learn new heroes in comp are not fit for playing comp, period. That’s what QP is for.
No one with even half a brain try to join comp to learn how to play any heroes.
Wrong. Smurfs swap to their smurf accounts to pub stomp because they get bored of playing in their elo. Buddy, i’ve been playing these kind of games for 3 decades. There’s no argument to be had here on your end, because you’re wrong.
No one had been caught in CS/CS:GO either, that is, until someone did get caught. It’s only a matter of time, that’s what i said.
Yes, but they will get unbanned if they send in a ban appeal, because they then look at the reports and the replay from that match.
It’s a horrible system for sure, and i don’t like it either but it is what it is. Blizzard doesn’t want to invest money into legit server mods who can join in and spectate games based on reports etc like i did in the old days on my server park. It makes a huge difference, having human eyes overlooking things as well as a working anti-cheat, but sadly cheaters are always gonna be one step ahead of any anti-cheat software until AI anti-cheat gets to the point where it’s 100% reliable.
The report feature isn’t an anti-cheat, it’s just a chat “AI” of sorts that triggers events based on x amount of reports targeted towards y player.
look dude (or buddy as you called me lol), guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on the alt vs smurf acc issue. I’ve also been playing over 3 decades so age/experience doesn’t really matter, unsure why you’d bring it up… but if I was younger would that make me wrong purely because of the year I was born? Happy for you though, hf and enjoy your games
Oh okay, well I wouldn’t know, because I’ve never needed to try.
I would think people that need to make a new account only have 1 braincell, so, mission accomplished? (meaning that it stops people from making new accounts, because they only have 1 braincell and they need 2. Thought I better explain that to you)
Hacking is still very much bannable, it’s just that f2p games tend to open the floodgates for that sort of thing. Smurfing (not to be confused with using a legitimate alt account) is also bannable, because Blizzard has explicitly stated that taking any measure to intentionally manipulate the matchmaker is a bannable offense. That includes intentionally deranking in any form.
Are you on one braincell? Why would “need” not be a part of the equation. What is the alternative? Want?
The only reason I can think of to make another account is if maybe you are too high ranked and you “need” one to play with your low ranked friends. Or, you were banned or suspended or something for misconduct, and you “need” another account to play the game.
