She isn’t even in the top half 
Imagine what you could do if you spent some of your time learning the countless tools this game gives you to counter widow, instead of whining about her on the forums.
Widow is literally the best character in the game. STILL.
She doesn’t need more nerfs. Her hook is now at it’s original cooldown from what, 2 years ago?
Nice try.
I can counter widowmaker. I’m not high enough that I’m running into people like Kephrii, but I am high enough that widow players know what they’re doing most of the time. And I can send them packing 9 times out of 10.
What don’t do, is enjoy playing against Widow or Hanzo. Being able to deal with them, and enjoying what they do to the game are two completely different things.
I totally believe you can counter them… I mean why else would you whine and whine on the forums like a toddler about a hero who has been F tier since goats became a thing?
Because it doesn’t matter if a hero is meta or not when they’re as oppressive as Widowmaker is.
I don’t like playing against her. I figured out how to counter her in order to get enemy widows to swap so I wouldn’t have to deal with their crap.
Pffft. Whatever you say. Your confidence when fighting an enemy widow shows by your constant whining. Good stuff!
You ever hold a job? You know, a real job?
Did you ever get assigned a task you didn’t want to do, but had to anyway?
Dealing with Widowmaker is kind of like that for me. I hate her. But I’ll deal with her because if I don’t, my team loses.
I complain about her on the forums, because I hate her.
Being able to deal with her does not mean I automatically enjoy playing against her.
Yeah, I totally believe you. 100% 
Level 25 by the way
private profile by the way
“but I am high enough that widow players know what they’re doing most of the time”
Right…
Ooo…I must be an alt account then. Excellent detective work there, Sherlock.
No, I’m not going to tell you who I am, or post on my main, or anything of the like. I’ve been harassed enough by people like you that dropping the money for an alt account was worth it and then some.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Please tell me you’re just a parody of what bad players sound like. This can’t be real, it’s too spot on.
Pretty much this, if I’m a dps I’m just going to go Sombra and harass the widow the entire game or until she switches, because otherwise it’s just going to be extremely annoying playing around her sightlines and praying I don’t get one shot.
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Flagging troll and moving on.
Apparently you’re not allowed to have an opinion anymore.
You’re allowed to have an opinion. I’m allowed to call your opinion stupid and make fun of why you have it.
such a class act you seem to be. So cool, and awesome.
I agree Roland19.
…and wow the forums here today are VERY hostile. I would say that adjustments on Widow are very controversial considering us players that main as her, take the character very serious.
I use to play the character all of the time. The fights were “fair” to a degree. But with the constant nerfing of the HOOK. The one thing players NEVER complain about. IT goes to show that Blizzard isn’t focusing on the core ISSUE.
- ONE SHOT characters.
- Headshot multipliers.
Yes, I don’t blame players at ALL, for wanting one-shots gone. I am FINE with that. I totally understand. What I don’t understand is why anyone… ANYONE. Wouldn’t want the damage output changed on her, first. Before mobility. No matter where I can place myself on the map with widow. I can control that area of the map fairly well.
Changing hooks, will NEVER help dive-heroes out. At all. I can equally snipe that winston or move behind a shield. Instead. I would hope that Blizzard reads this and give Widow, ASHE, Hanzo, doomfist equal damage output changes. So players all feel like they have an equal chance.
You’re right. We didn’t need the hook changes. What we needed was sniper counterplay and one-shot kills (minus on Tracer, and they’re maybe ok with a Mercy powerup) out of the game. Either fix the sightlines or fix the snipers. Ashe is what Widow always should’ve been, and Widow needs a hard DPS counter that has a playstyle opposite to her skillset.
I have more hours on widow than any other character, between my accounts it’s something like 80 or 100 hours or something like that. I really enjoyed playing her to relax when I was having like a big stress breakdown so she was all I played for like… 6 months.
The people who don’t know how to walk on the maps without putting their squishy little melons on display for me to shoot is STAGGERING. But it’s definitely possible to walk/exist in the game outside of her standard sightlines. I do it all the time and I virtually never get killed by a widowmaker whenever I play just because I find myself automatically standing where I know she can’t see me.
So I honestly think a lot of the ‘widowmaker problem’ is literally just people not realizing that they need to … maybe… not stand where she can shoot them from across the map?
Because like - if someone can land that shot? They deserve that damage. And I was kind of a mediocre Widowmaker, my accuracy never topped 65% and I was no god by any means, my wins were average.
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You are lucky if i was a OW dev i will put hook cooldown on 14 or 15 seconds