Had two celebrity coaches, game leap account, following Stylosa (never reviewed my stuff), frido, coach mills, iostux , 64 hours in aim labs, exhausted the git guds for VODs (someone made an announcement to stop helping me cause I don’t accept their logic as facts and other mass confusion including labeling me as learning disabled, or something to that effect), and lastly vods from you guys, the forums.
Finally took my old account to grand plat 5. May seem small to you gms, but I think the game still underestimates my skills, and I still get potatoes for teammates.
Here’s what I learned.
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Never underestimate your opponent. That “trash widow that misses every shot”, will always seems to always hit you…
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Give hanzo his lanes. The risk is not worth it.
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There is a fundamental issue with brawl characters. The risk reward in this game is not correct. As Ashe I can defend against a tracer 1-shot to the head, and any other flanker with either dynamite and shot gun. Choose a well rounded toon like Ashe. I tried hanzo, I think I tipped out at g1, but Ashe as a hitscan and her toolset made it too easy.
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Off angles and high ground. Is a thing, but what they forget to tell you, it doesn’t last. After the enemy knows your there, the off angle shifts and it’s now the “main angle”.
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Continuing from point 4, you have seconds and one try at a certain angle. After that get the hell out (depends on the enemy comp). But worst case they just know where you are and your shots increase in difficulty to hit (credit to arrge as I was studying hanzo but applies to all toons).
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What was poorly describe to me as having a plan, I’d equate to A10’s mental map… is really called game sense. You have to remember where everyone is and combine that with target priority as you tackle one priority you just move to the other.
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Never do your ult unless your tank is alive.
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In the land of the blind the man with glasses is king. When I hear a whole bunch of ults going off I specifically hold mine.
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Yea don’t die. Which is even harder with brawl and dive toons. On a good team I go 18-0.
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Once you see ANY of your teammates die, stop pressing W unless you see their teammates die. If you see their tank die scream in the mic and kill as many as you can.
Hey if you have any questions let me know I can keep this going. I can answer more towards how to manipulate the ranking system too. I found some things.
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“They” taught you a lot, you “chose” to ignore.
Congrats on plat though Bob!
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Thanks.
Choosing to ignore is the same as not accepting their word as facts. I still listened and applied what I thought was good. It mind boggled them to have someone not accept their world views. Mind boggled them so much they (or at least 1 person) thought I had a learning disability.
I mean it’s tough to find out that someone doesn’t want to learn from you. But if you inquire to learn FROM them as to their world view perhaps you could mold the lessons better. But if you don’t have the energy or time (hey it’s tough I get it), don’t label them as dumb just admit your not the teacher for them and move on. A gg go next right?
And then to have another person make an announcement to everyone else to specifically NOT help a dude asking for a vod. Yea it was a gg go next for me.
I get to plat the next week. But hey I gave them credit, but also sharing my experience.
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Platinum educational content, indeed I saw everything in this game now …
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Please enlighten me what the next steps are?
Bruh, you literally had Master/Grand Master coaches and chose to ignore advice, but for real, congrats on plat.
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Thanks again.
Grand masters and masters not all teachers and non shared replay codes and only 2 did vods (even offered to pay and still denied). Many threw punches. Not sure even if the average “rigged” (yet devs implementing my idea (so excited for season 3!!!)) person would have lasted as long as I.
Hey it’s all good, I guess my expectations were too high, not their fault.
All solid tips, mostly repeats of what I’ve heard from the likes of some you’ve listed (and others not there, like spilo or emcee), but still worth knowing. Ow has a lot to learn and it’s by no means standardized, so people who can self seek information or intuitively learn it themselves tend to perform the best 
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Now im curious.
This is a hot topic around here.
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Stats are janky. (I gave one example, 1 game played, 1 game won, win percentage 75%). With that you want to limit your janky stat exposure - stick to 2 toons. One for range and 1 to counter flanks. Here is where I leveraged aim labs.
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I noticed people who were doing terrible would leave the game and come back. I wondered if the stat wipe actually Carrie’s over to mmr config.
Honestly I thought there was more stuff. But everything just leads to stat padding. Cause here is my take. “Stat padding” is what exactly? Playing carefully? Not touching the objective? Never engage a fight where your outnumbered?
Kinda goes back to what everyone says, play more carefully.
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Pretty decent summary of what it takes to get to plat these days. I think point 5 is particularly relevant. In low gold you can get away with peeking the same sight lines. Towards high gold you get your head taken off if you keep peeking the same spot.
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That’s some great advice. It sounds like common sense once you read it but looking back at your loses and realize you didn’t do all those items correctly.
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The difference in ranks is the ability to think quickly and respond.
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So you don’t remember the exchange of conversation where I told you, you need to have a 3-D map in your head with a relative estimation of where all the players (your team and enemy team) are located?
As well as mental timer running so you can have a rough estimation as to when you expect to see someone returning from spawn?
I’ve for sure told you to never peek from the same place.
I know for certain some of these grand points are things we’ve all said so many different times, we straight up got tired of typing them out.
Its actually unbelievable
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Good stuff Sgt Slaughter…
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Oh no doubt, that’s why I gave you guys credit no? Many vods a lots of feedback. I’d just say for your group just to have more patience if the server was a “teaching” server.
And perhaps more open minded or willing to allow others to have different thoughts on things. Which brings to mind me just joking about hitboxes which turned into a stern debate about hitbox manipulation.
But when thinking of what the group did for me lately …. And asking what do I remember…
You announced to the server to “stop” helping me because of your lack patience… yea I think that was the straw that broke me.
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2 years is plenty patient, bob.
Anyways… Good job…
Go hit diamond now, post another one of these threads.
- Also make sure when you hit diamond, you go back and smurf in silver/gold lobbies so you finally see what we’re talking about.
- Doing it now won’t give you the same experience. So go back when you’re Diamond
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I wouldn’t take a GM’s advice to be the truth either when this isn’t a real competitive game. Visual rank means nothing when your MMR is what matters and is hidden.
I mean…. You’d be right if you weren’t so wrong.
It may not be as competitive as CSGO/LoL/Valorant, but companies have invested millions of dollars at this point.
Pretty sure they know more than you.
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Case and point. Ford pinto. You’d be surprised about how much is just trial and error, and not “knowledge”.