Giving Nano to Baby Dva

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Should she keep her nano when she calls mech?
Same for Echo ult
Or is it too broken?
Opinions please

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Yes because it’s a disaster otherwise.

There’s nothing worse than getting nano right when your mech dies and it goes to baby Dva before she even ejects.

It would also allow ana’s to nano baby Dva and not have the ult go to waste. Let’s say your Dva has 80% of Call mech but they’re in trouble and are about to be killed. Ana could save Dva with her ult if she wanted but it wouldn’t be a good choice as either Dva dies despite having nano, or Dva gets back in mech but now nano is gone and Dva’s down to 200 hp before they can even move mech.

It would help remedy the jank that that interaction has.

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as an ana main, id be fine with it transferring to mech or vice versa. absolutely not with echo ult, that could be broken.

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Eh, it’s annoying when it happens. Same as when you give nano to someone but they die before it reaches them, but I dunno if I’d want it to transfer, it kinda balances her ult like anyone else’s, timing is important.

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It should 100% carry over.
It would already be bad enough to lose the time it takes to get in or out of the MEKA while having nano.

Same goes for Mercy res.
All other Heroes are getting rezzed with full health and ready to go.
D.Va gets just 25% of her max HP and has to basically stun herself for 2 seconds to get “healed up” and have access to her abilities :unamused:

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It can’t carry over, because the game tracks baby d.VA and meka separately. There’s a really fun fringe interaction where you can get nano as baby d.VA, call meka, have the meka get instantly roasted, and pop out still having nano as baby d.VA.

Making the game track both states as one entity probably breaks the game in a million other ways, like ult charge status when meka dies.

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There is a simple solution to that problem:

Give the Nano to Baby D.Va and her MEKA.
That way there is no need to get into that whole D.Va/MEKA spaghetti code disaster :woman_shrugging:

Baby D.Va and her MEKA already can have Nano at the same time when there is an Echo and an Ana on your team and an Ana on the enemy team, so it’s really only a matter of applying it to both “characters” when it is applied to one of them.

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Rather minor change.
But I think it’s likely due to engine limitations if anything.

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Then D.Va would be the target for Nano 80-90% of the time

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It’d be strong but there’s also the technical reasoning and limitation opposing it.

D.Va in pilot and Mecha form aren’t the same single entity, they are two that are strung together with spaghetti code. Like there’s been bugs where D.Va ejects her mech into pilot form at the wrong location due to this and can get stuck in unintended ways.

Same goes for Echo but not as extreme, as her duplicate can break when a shield is put in front of her during it’s transformation. However thats more ping based.

Applying nano in this way could break it’s interaction on those transformation ults in general (and more depending how the engine handles it)

That’s because Mercy revives the last entity, which is pilot D.Va in this instance (because her mech was destroyed) but the devs are at least generous enough to give her ultimate charge maxed so she can become her mech form form again. Otherwise she’d be far far worse off having to grind for that ultimate charge again.

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This just came up to my mind when I saw this title xD (3:47)

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I mean, sure, that’s how it works.
But that doesn’t explain why they decided to make it work like this.

She also doesn’t respawn without her MEKA, so wouldn’t it make more sense to simply treat it as a respawn?

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Yes for both. It feels weird and clunky that they just lose nano.

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That’s because in spawn you respawn in Mech form. Just by switching heroes, you can enter as pilot D.va switch to Roadhog then back to D.Va and she’ll be in her mech. You’ll be down all your ult charge but it’s a compromise/risk you take. They do this a lot in contenders and OWL which can be effective to stagger the team.

To treat rez as a respawn in spawn would make D.Va significantly stronger if she got revived over other heroes due to her double life nature. They most likely added it in for balance and technical reasons, as reviving her in her mech mode might of caused issues. D.Va is a mess of code after all.

Because Mercy’s rez revives the last entity it defaults to pilot D.Va. Mercy doesn’t alter your hero selection (that’d be a bit broken as an ability) like respawn does. She just revives the dead player at 100% hp and with abilities back.

They gave D.Va an exception as her pilot form comes back with 100% ult charge so she can become her mech form again. This shows it’s most likely a technical and balancing reason.

They may address it in the future but seeing as D.Va got removed temporarily from competitve due to being immortal and others issues like her mech being destroyed caused her pilot form to respawn out of the map or clip in unintended areas. I’m doubtful.

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No, with remech being able to 1 shot a majority of the roster, the last thing we need is to give her a way to be in baby mode without repercussion ontop of things like bubble without removing the downside for doing it.

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Yes, but not the mech.

So, you nano baby Dva, she calls the mech and you see her glowing inside the mech.
No buff applied to the mech, because it is baby Dva the one that took the shot.