To me Genji seems super weak. My understanding is that Genji is meant to go behind the backlines and get enemy players who are out of position and squishies. But in QP where your team basically does nothing; the entire enemy is always together.
To add even if I DO find someone out of position and attack them, there’s so much CC(Ana sleep Dart) and self healing(Supports) that I can’t secure the kill.
Genji doesn’t have the kit to 5v1 vs the other team either.
Genji just feels weak.
Why put the skill into using Genji when half the supports in the game can just two shot me?
Kiriko, A SUPPORT, seems better than Genji at securing kills. Plus has passive self healing.
But if I’m wrong tell me.
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High skill ceiling, low skill floor.
That’s pretty much it.
IMO yes, supports are overtuned. But no, Genji is fine and no where near as difficult to play as people would lead you to believe for the vast majority of the playerbase.
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Deflect?
No hero should be able to win 1v5 assuming teams are of equal skill… It is called balance
This just sounds like joke/troll post!
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Genji suffers from the same thing he did at the end of OW1. Healing/sustain is too high to get consistent value out of his base kit. Nano blade though is still a fight winner so Genji will always be a decent pick. That playstyle though is just not as fun as getting better value from the rest of his kit.
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I don’t think you’re wrong but also, keep in mind that Zarya is also one of the stronger tanks and she can put pressure on him a lot. Tanks and supports that are currently strong also don’t do him any favors.
I mean that is an issue affecting most of the DPS role right now, I’m exclusively playing Hanzo at the moment because I can actually get things done with him.
Zarya also works really well with him though, and with bubble being 225hp she works better with him then she works against him when vsin
it’s just you, masters genji pretty much one shot you when they get the chance
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I was started to think “when they nerfed his combo?”
You are literally trying to throw yourself at the enemy team alone and expect to get anything done? That’s not how you play this hero. Tracer has the higher mobility/sustain for faster lone wolf potshots. She has the high burst to go for backline kills and get out if things get rough. Even Sombra has a better time currently with stealth and translocate to hide in a team’s backline without help.
You ARE NOT a hammond or Tracer player who have the most unrivaled mobilty, speed, and surviability built into their kits.
Genji’s entire design is to be opprotunistic. He gets dash resets on kills and has low innate damage. Your whole goal as Genji is effectively dive with someone else. Help secure kills. That’s how you really end up playing Genji to an effective level.
EVERY HERO CAN FLANK, but does not mean every hero does it well. Genji is very close to doing it well, but he can’t survive very long isolated form his team. You either go all in with high skill vs lower skilled players and get it, or you do what he’s really designed for which is taking off angles and making short bursts. He doesn’t have insane consistent mobility nor does he have the high burst damage necessary to get self picks. Its why he even has a long projectile in the first place with high precision.
You and many other people are playing this hero very wrong trying to play him solo without a dive buddy.
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His burst potential is really good, this is why as you scale higher he greatly overshadows Moira, as an example.
However total team awareness becomes so much better that it becomes harder to either isolate or pick an isolated target that you can spike and retreat with confidence.
This is why you end up with genjis who stick with frontline and snipe to farm blade, and only dash spike dmg when someone is half health or below that they can pick off easily and return with dash reset or a bubble/etc.
IMO he’s a good cleaner
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Which the burst is merely unreliable and very risky. Brigitte has a reliable burst of 155dmg, but its limited to effectively the range of her shield bash distance. She is limited to enemies coming to her. As well as doubling up with another player. The only way she tends to reliably get kills is taking as many 2v1s as possible.
The unfortunately thing is that many people want to play Genji as a solo character. The only really good lone wolf heroes are honestly Hammond, Tracer, and Sombra from a flanking perspective. The other lone wolf heroes are the actual pick heroes like Hanzo and Widowmaker.
Genji is honestly a supportive DPS in the way his kit works out, but without any direct buffs for his team.
Take OP’s post and change every mention of “Genji” and replace it with “Symmetra”
If you say anything to the effect of “Ridiculous. Symmetra is too strong!” Then Genji is fine.
I completely agree Genji is a supportive dps.
I think the major things that render his spike dmg unreliable are mostly based on the person playing them and other external factors for sure…
IE people not tracking support abilities like lamp or nade
But then when we get on to that topic there’s such a saturation of things that can stop people from playing genji “the genji way” when it comes to teams actually playing and sticking together as a team. So I totally understand why people refer to him as a blade bot, by extension of that issue.
Snipe, farm ult, clean when you KNOW you can, then nano blade.
genji’s good up until masters, that’s when it starts to get a little bit annoying to play.