hear me out: In the beginning of season 1, Genji was set to be nerfed due to “overperforming in all ranks.” Fair.
The devs and community agreed that it was because of the DPS passive of the speed boost, which I think was correct. Most people who can’t aim or hit shots or know how to turn around still want genji nerfed, but the logic is now the dps passive is gone and there is nothing for you guys to complain about. “Less CC” is what you’ll say, but the fact of the matter is then all flankers in that regard are already buffed and not just genji in particular, really any hero the roster can benifit from that.
Another thing you guys will say is “His abilities reset on CD.” Well, for every flanker they have a way to get out of combat, sombra literally TPS across the map to you already know a mega, tracer literally gets health and ammo back, winton and dva, hammond have insane mobility on very short CDs.
Genji is not bloated rn, and the issue you guys used to define his nerfs are gone, so can we get back what it was at a default?
I don’t have any strong feelings on Genji one way or the other, but all the other flankers have also been nerfed, no? Tracer had her damage lowered, Echo’s ult was nerfed, Sombra was hurled into the dumpster.
And it’s true. Genji got so much room with the removal of flashbang and freeze, and the second tank that reverting him would be insane. Oh, and don’t forget the amount of easy healing in the game that has been added since. A small buff is fine.
I want doom Beta back; at least you got to use techs and show you know how to use the character.
Mercy is great rn what do you mean? The healing buff is insane, the thing is you just need to think when using GA, which is still on a relatively short CD for mobility.
Kiriko is still in the meta being pretty dominant
Where have you been? In most posts about genji pre-nerf the community cried dps passive.
Sombra was blaitenly op with melting tanks in seconds, but has recently been rebuffed. tracer will always be powerful now with her fall off shadow buff, slighly reverted but left a little bit
I wouldnt fully revert him. I would just revert the one buff and thatll be the 29dmg shurikens. That would mostly buff him for upper ranks as opposed to lower ranks. The ammo revert will mostly buff him for lower ranks than upper ranks which I definitely dont want personally.
And yet they are all weaker than they were. Like Genji, they’ve all been toned down because of the effect of there being less CC in the game. That will continue to be a concern in any potential Genji buffs.
Not strictly accurate. It was agreed that is was part of the issue. Not the issue.
I find this a tired, old, and poorly thought out argument.
Think this through. Genji’s has more unpredictable movement in combat than any other hero. He has the vertical mobility that very few heroes do. Couple that with a hit box that is relatively (compared to other heroes) small and natural movement that is faster than almost all other heroes and he is one of if not the hardest hero to shoot. This is relative to other heroes. So, whatever your aim skill is it is easier to hit other heroes than it is to hit Genji. The ‘just shoot him’ response is wrong because if you can ‘just shoot him’ you can ‘just shoot’ any other hero easier.
You have to also add to that deflect, which is a crazy good defensive on a short CD. It rivals tank CDs.
Couple all that with the how easy it is for Genji to choose when and where to attack makes him, relative to the other dps, THE hardEST hero to reliably kill. Any other hero is easier to ‘hit shots’ on.
Several problems:
Blizzard has already stated Genji is still doing really well.
Because of break points the number of hits to kill a target did not change. And even factoring in healing, the situation where pre-nerf Genji would get a kill and post nerf Genji would not have are basically non-existent. You have to have a situation like between landing the shots and dash or dash+melee the target got 2 ticks of unamped Lucio aura, but not 3.
Practically speaking the only thing that went down is a very, very slight decrease in ult generation when just spamming shots into the enemy team. So, Genji really didn’t have any measurable decrease in power.
The nerfs were really nothing more than a placebo. Now, when you miss a kill by a little bit it feels like the nerfs caused it because you think they will. But in reality virtually any situation you would have gotten a kill pre-nerf you would still get it post nerf.
He has the best mobility
He has the best defensive
He has one of the lowest TTKs outside 1 shots. (His is pretty close to 1 shot)
He has the strongest dps ult, by a HUGE margin.