Those topics are regarding OW2 not OW1 which is what we were talking about
And Genji nerf topics aren’t a new thing, they just pop sometimes just like every hero people dislike for their noob stomp capabilities
he literally hasn’t changed between the two games except for a passive buff which only makes him more of a problem.
what’s changed is the lack of CC used to rein him in, that’s gone now and he’s had no changes to compensate
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Brother, I am being honest right now - you can’t possibly say you aren’t familiar with genji’s 200 HP combos, like the famous example I gave over right click dash melee combos, you don’t need a video for that.
what are you even talking about at this point
first we were talking about his OW1 strength, then you moved it to pickrate and then to fun aspect and now you’re on OW2 strength
I never even denied he was good in OW2
They are supports not healers.
my initial post was literally about his state in OW2 and how he’s not at all been changed from the first game to accommodate the new balance changes
yeah and i replied to a comment of you stating how he’s always been a good hero
If you were actually following the context of our conversation you would have realized that I am aware of it because I did say something about “pulling off the combo”
No, I’m asking you for proof that he’s doing that at every opportunity at every rank.
I’m in a loss for words. You do understand that this is the proof of my argument against his ability to execute instant to low TTK eliminations regardless of the rank he’s being played in?
Genji does not need dash reset on assisted eliminations.
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I noticed this too, alternate fire of all three shurikens are MUCH easier to hit. I am by no means a genji main but I played him and he just seems so much stronger. Which is odd because some other characters got their hitscan nerfed. I can hit on some heroes I used to have problems with and others I never had an issue with, i’m missing shots. Maybe its server lag I am not sure. But I can’t play Ana anymore because of this change.
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Him having the potential of doing that does not mean he’s doing that at every rank.
Widow can one-shot 4 players on the enemy team at every engagement. No one is doing that at any rank.
Get some logic.
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No you misunderstand. A genji can jump on a 200 HP hero at every single moment and instantly kill him. it doesn’t matter if this hero is being played by a bronze or a masters, you do agree that there is a big difference between getting a 4k with widow and what I just described? by the way there’s a reason why it’s not that easy to get multi-frag with widow and even so people are doing it when their aim is good enough, she’s designed to reward aim and position based skill, and not button pressing patterns and positions based skill like genji.
A Widow can one-shot any 200 hp hero at every single moment instantly killing him. Doesn’t matter the rank.
What’s your point?
BTW there is also a reason why it’s not easy to pull off that combo even by players with top aim, control of positioning and reflex. If you don’t have good aim you’re not hitting hs with shuriken. If you do not control your positioning well you do not hit enough shurikens. If you don’t have the reflex you miss the timing. Failing on any of these and you don’t pull off the combo clean. WTF do you know about how to play Genji?
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Pretty terrible arguments coming from people who ‘main’ Genji. Truth is this, Genji has a bloated kit and it needs to be toned down.
Ain’t no amount of ‘switch to winston’ going to help it. Cassidy can’t counter Genji anymore. (I’m a Grandmaster / Master level Cassidy main)
Genji has more value than any character on the DPS roster even if he didn’t do anything. He could NOT kill anyone, get an assisted elimination and get dash resets and snowball.
The amount of value you get for such little input is astonishing.
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I’ll explain again, the big difference is the fact that genji does it from close range - hence crosshair on head level is way easier and 1 shuriken hit is enough, not an impressive aim requirement AND as I said the overall time it takes for him to execute is far faster than widows which is required to charge her shot - again instant to low TTK next to medium TTK, executing this combo with genji is way easier and much more versatile and effective.
Finally some reasonable voice that can actually understand game-design related attributes.
Coming from a Cassidy main who spams m1 all game. That’s rich.
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Wrong again, due to being close range your target can very easily get out of your fov requiring bigger crosshairs adjustment to keep it at head level. This is why close range hs as widow is more difficult and impressive than long range ones.
Lol, if you weren’t real we had to make you up. Ok brother, believe what you want, it is getting hectic and your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous, close range HS with widow are hard because of FOV and nothing else, Aiming is harder than playing genji, just get over it, I’m officially done.